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10th January 2008, 12:31 AM #1
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Looking to play with Linux...
Ok, i've always been a Windows person myself because I know it and the tools to use if I want to do something.
Now linux is getting easier and easier with reguards to drivers and software applications I'm wanting to use it.
Problem is, I feel the only way im going to learn is by formatting my work laptop and just installing it. I have setup vm's in the past with Ubuntu on it, but because its not always there, it's not like I have to use it.
How have you guys gone about teaching yourself it and what distribution of Linux would you use?
I've tried Ubuntu and I got very impatiant with it... waiting for it to boot then anything I wanted to do I had to sudo it etc etc...
With more job descriptions saying "Experience with Linux or OSx" I really need to pick it up :S
Thanks for your advice, much appreciated.
10th January 2008, 12:48 AM #2
When i first started out playing with linux i dual booted my machine with Ubuntu and XP Pro that way if i ever needed anything XP i could quickly get to it.
10th January 2008, 12:52 AM #3
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Ok thanks jackd
Are you realistically able to manage network tasks using Ubuntu?
e.g "Students come to your and ask for you to open an Office 2007 doc to convert to 2003" or "Enable their user account in AD".
"Create some graphics work for a department that needs to be put onto the website."
I remember trying to connect a network printer to Ubuntu... wouldnt work though when I tried a test print.
10th January 2008, 12:55 AM #4
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Jesus your not even 16 yet... silly of me for asking you those questions.
Your going to be a bright kid mate!
I thought I knew alot when I was your age at school. One of the first to download mp3s when I was in yr8/9 and swapping them on floppy's with me school mate.
That was about 7-8 yrs ago.
10th January 2008, 12:59 AM #5
Anyway i know that at least one of those things is possible the "Create some graphics work for department....etc" one that could probably be acheived very easily with GIMP or something. Personally ive never had AD setup while ive been into linux so i wouldnt know the answer to the other two, ive converted my windows server over to the linux side now but im sure someone like Geoff will be able to answer your questions.
Ah and the network printer one works fine for me i assume your talking about printing to a windows server hosting the printers, well ive only had it setup with samba but that worked fine with ubuntu using the standard config tools
Happy linuxing! (That sounds stupid)
10th January 2008, 01:03 AM #6
Definitely Ubuntu - It's the easiest way to start using Linux when you're used to Windows.
""I've tried Ubuntu and I got very impatiant with it... waiting for it to boot then anything I wanted to do I had to sudo it etc etc...""
...think of it as a learning curve - yes, those things are annoying, just in the same way as things are annoying on Windows, you investigate, see if there's a way to get around it etc.
Failing that - Fedora Core is pretty good, but not as user-friendly as the Ubuntu range.
Initially on a VM on my main PC, now installed in it's own right on my 2nd PC.
10th January 2008, 01:07 AM #7
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Ok you guys, thanks very much.
I'll install Ubuntu again. I've seen some very eye candy versions of Ubuntu with some awesome visual effects applied over the top.
Anyone know what distribution that is or would you definitly recommend sticking to the bog standard release and then add things as I go along?
10th January 2008, 01:09 AM #8
Im sure thats ubuntu 7.10 with Beryl/Compiz Fusion installed (i think it comes with it by default, cant remember) id definatley recomend ubuntu had no problems what so ever with it!
Last edited by Jackd; 10th January 2008 at 01:20 AM.
10th January 2008, 01:15 AM #9
Better to stick with the standard Ubuntu and then play - Kubuntu (KDE desktop) etc., can easily be added later.
Not sure on the graphics, but I'd guess at the Beryl 3D desktop.
As for the AD/MS questions. I've never found a way to edit it natively and use Remote Desktop to the server, there may well be a native AD editor for Linux, but I've not heard of one. You can authenticate via LDAP for network resources though.
Yes - "e.g "Students come to your and ask for you to open an Office 2007 doc to convert to 2003" or "Enable their user account in AD"." - is going to a a right PiTA on Ubuntu - you simply can't do all the support work you need to when you're a predominatly MS environment, and your management machine is Linux. It's just a nice skill to have, and good for the odd backend webserver etc. It's all experience
10th January 2008, 09:23 AM #10
Not sure if there is anything for linux that is simliar to RDP ( with os x ) M$ have done an RDP app and I can just remote onto the windows servers and do what I need to do that way.
I know there is putty and other apps for linux but I'm defo not a linux guru ( As per above, I think Geoffs ya guy for anything linux related )
10th January 2008, 09:33 AM #11
I'm probably a bit of an anomaly but my first look at linux was installing it on a computer that was to become a server after reading about it online. It was then the server for a classroom full of PC's in my dad's electronics room. This was when I was 14, so 9 years ago.
10th January 2008, 09:37 AM #12
With Ubuntu, I believe you can RDP into Windows servers by using Applications -> Internet -> Terminal Server Client. The Kubuntu equivalent is Krdc.
10th January 2008, 09:38 AM #13
The underlying command line tool is called 'rdesktop'. It's quite easy to setup a folder full of shortcuts to your servers using it.
10th January 2008, 09:43 AM #14
10th January 2008, 09:56 AM #15
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My advice is to forget the dual booting lark, just setup another machine. It doesn't need to be anything too beefy. I'm running FC7 with KDE on a PIII with 512MB RAM and it is fine. Pop along to WH Smiths and get the latest issue of "Linux Format"; there is a lengthy article about running Linux on low power machines.
The best way to try Linux is to fiddle. Switch off the M$ box and do everything in Linux. You'll learn the o/s very quickly.
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