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    Re: The Ubuntu Smartphone

    When the 920 comes down a bit I plan on getting one, they do look like nice phones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SYNACK View Post
    they do look like nice phones.
    Definitely! The HTC 8X is quite nice too, although I think I might wait and see if Microsoft release a Surface Phone (I hope they do).


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    You must be linking to the wrong article. That one says Nokia sold 4.4M Lumina devices yet an android article from the summer claims there were 1.3M android activations per day.

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    Re: The Ubuntu Smartphone

    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur View Post
    Definitely! The HTC 8X is quite nice too, although I think I might wait and see if Microsoft release a Surface Phone (I hope they do).

    Likewise, a surface phone would probably be indestructible.

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    I'm a big fan of the Ubuntu phone idea. I have now basically switched to Linux on all my home PCs, using Windows only for gaming when I feel the need.

    Having a full fledged Ubuntu system in my phone would be great. Use it as a phone when I'm wandering around, then all I do is dock it and voila a full Ubuntu desktop, running whatever desktop I want. When this appears in the wild, I'll definitely be looking at using it!

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    Could this be the device that finally weens me off the old fruit juice? I've transferred all my songs to plan old MP3 and got rid of any DRM so the only thing left tying me to Apple is the Appstore (there's a couple of Apps I've yet to see a suitable Android alternative to). I like the idea of running a Linux desktop, especially if the Steam Console takes off as well. A tightly integrated phone experience - like OSX and the iPhone - could tip the balance. But as with Windows 8 and Android, it's quality app availability at the end of the day. Watching with interest...

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    In which Ars is allowed to see—but not touch—an Ubuntu phone « Ars Technica

    No touching! Canonical shows us an Ubuntu phone, tells us to keep our hands off.




    Canonical was also showing Ubuntu for Android today. Whereas Ubuntu phones will be Ubuntu on both the phone and desktop, Ubuntu for Android turns a standard Android phone into an Ubuntu PC when docked. Using Ubuntu for Android, Collins showed us a telephony application on Ubuntu that can access the Android address book. This is a Samsung Galaxy S3, docked and running Ubuntu on the desktop.

    Like the Ubuntu phone OS, the source code for Ubuntu for Android is not yet available. "We don't want users to install it on hardware that we're not sure it can support," Collins said, a statement quite similar to the excuse Google has given for delaying release of Android source code. Canonical officials have said Ubuntu phone development will (eventually) involve the community more than Android's does, however, following a model similar to the Ubuntu desktop code.

    Although Canonical is still working on Ubuntu for Android because of Android's dominant market presence, in the long run it hopes to convince users that Ubuntu is the best choice for both phones and desktops.

    "Our Ubuntu phone running our Ubuntu desktop is obviously where we want to take our product forward," Collins said.

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    For a prototype device, this is looking pretty good.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CyberNerd View Post
    an Android article from the summer claims there were 1.3M Android activations per day.
    The majority of Android devices are low-end / cheap-and-nasty phones running Gingerbread which is hardly worth getting excited about. The latest smartphones like Samsung's Galaxy S3 and Google's Nexus 4 only account for between 123,333 to 5,800,000 activations per month.

    Outdated Android devices are exposing 400 million users to security threats

    ^ Hopefully Canonical learn from Google's mistake and ensure OS updates come directly from them (instead of via network operators).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur View Post
    The majority of Android devices are low-end / cheap-and-nasty phones running Gingerbread which is hardly worth getting excited about. The latest smartphones like Samsung's Galaxy S3 and Google's Nexus 4 only account for between 123,333 to 5,800,000 activations per month.

    Outdated Android devices are exposing 400 million users to security threats

    ^ Hopefully Canonical learn from Google's mistake and ensure OS updates come directly from them (instead of via network operators).
    The outdated OS thing annoys me greatly. There's no need for it - it is pure laziness by the network operators IMO. Or a ploy to get you to update your phone to a new model because they'll claim it has new features which your old one would've had if they'd bothered to keep it up to date.

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    Quote Originally Posted by localzuk View Post
    Or a ploy to get you to update your phone to a new model because they'll claim it has new features which your old one would've had if they'd bothered to keep it up to date.
    Almost certainly the case. I know Apple have been artificially limiting their OS's backwards compatibility for years for this very reason. Can't blame them really. If I can run the latest and greatest on my current system with no ill effect, why would I want to spend $$$'s on new hardware?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur View Post
    The majority of Android devices are low-end / cheap-and-nasty phones running Gingerbread which is hardly worth getting excited about.
    The majority of Nokia phones are cheap and nasty symbian devices.

    The effect MS has had on Nokia is quite apparent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CyberNerd View Post
    The majority of Nokia phones are cheap and nasty symbian devices.

    The effect MS has had on Nokia is quite apparent.
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    Yet Elop still has a job... I wonder if he's a plant by Apple or Samsung? lol

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    It makes me sad seeing Nokia fail so much, but i jumped ship from being 100% Nokia since 1998 to Samsung Galaxy SII in 2011, and unless they dump Windows Mobile i do not intend on going back, i even went to iphone yesterday.

    They needed/need to do Samsungs stratagy, have the same phone more or less 1 with Android 1 with Windows Mobile and let the market decide.

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    I remember Nokia and Symbian with some fondness and it is sad what happened to them. The sad truth is they saw Apple coming and were already in development of their own alternative, Meego. But internal politics meant they decided to stick with Symbian far longer than they should have, Apple came along and the rest is history. Here's a link to a story about a late Meego being set up for failure in favour of Symbian and WP7.

    Nokia

    I think they alienated themselves against Andoid quiet early on and shelved Meego due to internal Symbian politics. This as pretty much left them with no where to go but Microsoft, which is, er, no where!
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