So they intend to kill off any possibility of working in the corporate environment. Seems fair enough, they are definitely geared towards consumers and small businesses anyway.
Intersting. I've been having some chats in the background with various companies, and some intreting titbots come to light.
1. Apple use Windows servers internally. And why not. Apple themselves don't acutually have any industry level server based apps such as Exchange and SQL.
2. Steve Jobs has indicated that Apple must look and support the corporate market place, one that is heavily dominated by Microsoft.
3. To supply smaller and cheaper 'bridging' products such as the MacMini running OSX server so as to allow AD integration makes more finacial sense than trying to reinvent the wheel.
Intersting things are happing at Apple, things that are going to start to impact on most of us in the next 24 months.
Interesting indeed. Annoying too, as we've just set up our Mac-only, XServe-hosted OD network this September - we were AD integrated last year, but had issues we couldn't overcome so everything got reconfigured!
So long as it isn't the end of the road for OS X Server, most of us will live and I can understand why they're doing it. Mobile platforms with app-stores seem to be Apple's raison d'ętre just no, and as Dos_Box said, they don't need to re-invent the wheel with server technologies, just integrate themselves into what is already hugely widespread.
I coveted the XServe for years before we got one here (like a good little nerd should). Little bit sad they're to be discontinued!
Its just the Xserve hardware they are stopping. The OS X server software will still be arroundSo long as it isn't the end of the road for OS X Server
Really silly move and no one has the option to put osx server on their own hardware... fail apple, fail....
And Wosnic said their enterprise support was going to get better....
Also there is the fact that they proberbly didn't make that much money off the XServer in proportion to the effort that went into design, production and support compared to the other tier one server manufacturers.
what will that do for second hand prices of xserves then.
The prices are laughable as well when compared between an xserver and mac pro.... where are the mac pro SAS drives for example?
Also who needs a beefy graphics card in a server... its just a waste of money/power/heat having that in a server.
Multiple power supplies, nope, multiple nics, nope... multiple FC cards, nope, I cant believe you would think a pro is even close to what you would want in a datacenter.... this is before you get to support such as OS support etc.
EDIT: looking at the xserve its not that great an enterprise server either with its limited options, it really needed a bump up.
Last edited by ZeroHour; 5th November 2010 at 02:15 PM.
Well they could make the mac server support windows 7 clients when its being used a DC and provide some group policy alternative. Maybe a proper helpdesk support system with tickets on apple support section of there website. Unless apple are gonna make some cloud based server system.
Hmm, a mac pro works well on its side, and shelves in racks rather than rails has always been viable.
So a couple of mac pros with Parallels® Server for Mac Bare Metal Edition and shared storage (FC/iscsi SAN) would run a school network pretty sweetly.
The market for Mac Pros and XServes have been canabalised by the macmini Server and the power of the core2/i5-7 in the imacs.
Given an existing virtualised Windows Server environment then a macmini server is more than adequet for suppoting 200 imacs, the xserve has been a deadman walking for a couple of years, hopefully the expladability of the macpro will protect it.
However given apple's recent 'its all about mobile consumer electronics' and rumours about depopulating the ProApps team, and the lack of real development with ARD, I can't say things are looking good. I'd have to question the wisdom of investing in macs within education at this point - if apple abandon the 'Industry' that made them hip then they loose their relevance to schools trying to expose students to the real-world tools that can make them stand out from the next job seeker.
What they really need is to team up with HP/Dell/IBM and support running OSX Server on specific versions/configurations of enterprise level servers. If I can't rack mount it then it's not going to be run as a server. If we can't run OS X server then we're certainly not going to be running macs.
To me this stinks of Apple sticking two fingers up at the enterprise market and rather than embracing how it works, going "we know better than you, so you'll be doing as we say".
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