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    Microsoft to lock pirates out of Vista PCs

    http://news.zdnet.com/2100-1009_22-6122462.html

    Windows Vista will have new antipiracy technology that locks people out their PCs if the operating system isn't activated within 30 days after installation.

    If Vista is not activated with a legitimate product registration key in time, the system will run in "reduced functionality mode" until it is activated, said Thomas Lindeman, a senior product manager at Microsoft. In this mode, people will be able to use a Web browser for up to an hour, after which time the system will log them out, he said.

    The new technology is part of Microsoft's new "Software Protection Platform," which the company plans to announce on Wednesday. It will be part of future versions of all Microsoft products, but debuts in Windows Vista and Windows Server "Longhorn," said Cori Hartje, director of Microsoft's Windows Genuine Software Initiative. Vista, the successor to Windows XP, is slated to be broadly available in January.

    Microsoft has escalated its battle with software pirates during the past two years through the "Genuine Advantage" add-ons for Windows and Office, its biggest cash cows. The company is now expanding its push by baking antipiracy features into its new products and taking more drastic action when it finds that a product was illegitimately acquired.

    Many users shouldn't be confronted by Vista's antipiracy technology, however. People who buy a PC with Vista installed from companies such as Dell, Hewlett-Packard and Gateway, for example, should find the operating system activated already.

    "Everything is going to be good to go right out of the box," Hartje said. "This is more for those who install after the fact."

    Those who install Vista themselves, for example on existing PCs, will have a 30-day period to activate the operating system and validate with Microsoft that they have a legitimate license. "During those 30 days, you get warning messages, it counts down. During the last three days they get very frequent," Lindeman said.

    If ignored, after 30 days Vista will display four options. The first will allow the user to activate online, the second is to run in reduced functionality mode, the third is to enter a product key and the fourth displays instructions to activate by phone, Lindeman said.

    "In reduced functionality mode, we will let you use your browser for periods of up to an hour before we log you off," Lindeman said.

    Barring people from using their PC is a significant change from the antipiracy features that Microsoft bolted on to Windows XP with Windows Genuine Advantage. In XP, the piracy-busting features only put a block on downloading additional programs from Microsoft's Web sites.

    "Piracy is one of the most significant problems facing the software industry," Hartje said. More than a third of all software installed last year was pirated or unlicensed, she said, citing figures from the Business Software Alliance, a software industry group.

    Microsoft will continue to check if Vista was legitimately acquired, even after activation. This happens, for example, when downloading additional Microsoft programs. Should a license key be deemed illegitimate, the user will be given another 30-day grace period to acquire a legitimate license key, Microsoft said.

    During this grace period warnings will be displayed and Vista will block access to the Windows Defender antispyware tool, ReadyBoost memory expansion feature and Aero advanced graphics option, Microsoft said. Also, a persistent text will display in the lower right hand of the screen: "This copy of Windows is not genuine."

    If Vista is not validated after the 30 days, the user will again be locked out.

    As part of the increased effort to make it harder to pirate its products, Microsoft is also changing the way businesses license its software. New licensing systems will replace the current volume license keys, which have been widely abused, Hartje said. "Fifty percent of the piracy, we think, uses keys issued to volume licensing customers," she said.

    Volume license keys are registration codes for products that Microsoft gives out to large organizations in plain text. One key can be used to activate and run an unlimited number of copies of the product, for example Windows XP or Office XP.

    Starting with Vista, Microsoft will offer two different types of keys and offer three different ways to distribute them within an organization. In all cases, some more work will be required on the part of the technology department at a company.

    "They will just need to do a little extra planning," Hartje said.

    The first type of product key to replace the current system is called "multiple activation key," or MAK. An IT pro at a company can install a key on a machine that will then need to be validated online. Alternatively a proxy can be set up centrally to activate multiple systems at once, according to Microsoft.

    The second licensing option is called "key management service," or KMS. This requires the organization to set up a KMS service on the corporate network that will activate client machines. The Vista PCs will silently find the KMS service and activate, according to Microsoft.

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    Re: Microsoft to lock pirates out of Vista PCs

    10 minutes after Vista is released, there will be cracks to disable this. Just like there is with XP's Genuine Advantage and Product Activation.

    This'll just annoy legitimate users, we've already seen WGA get it wrong on several occasions.

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    Re: Microsoft to lock pirates out of Vista PCs

    I hope you not suggesting that Vista security will be breakable ? - Microsoft have gone to such efforts with this one.

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    Re: Microsoft to lock pirates out of Vista PCs

    No I'm suggesting any tech savy pirate (read: all of them) can simply go to their favorite torrent site and download a zip file with all the require dll's hex edited so they fool the system into thinking it's activated, registered and working.

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    Re: Microsoft to lock pirates out of Vista PCs

    no change then

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    Re: Microsoft to lock pirates out of Vista PCs

    Does the browser time limit apply to IE only or Firefox, Opera.. too?

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    Re: Microsoft to lock pirates out of Vista PCs

    I bet you can do a 'shutdown -a' and cancel the forced shutdown anyway

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    Re: Microsoft to lock pirates out of Vista PCs

    More than likely

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    Re: Microsoft to lock pirates out of Vista PCs

    This'll just annoy legitimate users, we've already seen WGA get it wrong on several occasions.
    It seems I'm suffering from prescience again.

    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/10...idation_snafu/

    Don't worry folks, I get my pills.

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    Re: Microsoft to lock pirates out of Vista PCs

    I have to admit that I know alot about the warez scene, and frankly I have yet to see any piece of software that has "locked" pirates out. Some companies have spent millions on various forms of "protection", only to have some group crack it in seconds. My money would be on either Dynam1cs or PRCD groups cracking it first. On the whole its always appeared that pirates are far better at doing what they do than the companies producing the software are at stopping it.

    I agree with Geoff, mere seconds after release, someone will have cracked it

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    Re: Microsoft to lock pirates out of Vista PCs

    I recently installed one of the latest releases of Cubase, and it actually comes with a USB dongle that you have to plug in to use the software. I was discussing it with a friend a few days later who said he just got the cracked version.

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    Re: Microsoft to lock pirates out of Vista PCs

    Now theres weird !! I just installed Cubase with the little blue dongles myself yesterday

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    Re: Microsoft to lock pirates out of Vista PCs

    Yeah, if the copy protection system is too anonying then people just get the crack for convenience.

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    Re: Microsoft to lock pirates out of Vista PCs

    The only exception I've seen to this so far is Starforce which any gamers here will be intimately familiar with by now. Absolutley evil piece of software which is almost a rootkit which authenticats discs at a kernel driver level before giving the game the OK to run. If they're driver just wasn't so keen on disabling usefull apps like Daemon's tools I'd mind less.

    It doesn't ask if you accept its being installed, it just does it. I've even been caught by the X3 demo which installed it. They now provide an official removal tool if you can trust it but I haven't found a good crack for it yet. The couple in existence are very complicated and probably more inconvenient than finding the disc.

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    Re: Microsoft to lock pirates out of Vista PCs

    Quite true. If one of the little darlings decides to steal the dongle for a laugh, then we can't use the software without resorting to a possibly illegal crack.

    As it's been said before, the copy protection mechanisms only inconvenience legitimite users.

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