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    what i would like to know is how they will know the difference between an illegal torrent and a completley legal one

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    Quote Originally Posted by FN-GM View Post
    The thing with this is its all avout the tax.

    If someone downloads say a film from a torrent instead of purchasing it. The government will then missout on the tax on that sale.
    No proof that: download = sale.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CPLTD View Post
    what i would like to know is how they will know the difference between an illegal torrent and a completley legal one
    I would like to know this as well.

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    @ theblacksheep can you tell me what you mean please? The majority of people that torrent copyright projected content have no intentions of buying it

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    I think people are getting a little confused, the way I think it works is like America,
    A RIAA type group find X torrent of illegal music
    They run their torrent client and log all IP addresses connected to tracker in relation to that torrent
    They then filter to only UK IP's and then send the 1/2/3rd warnings to the user through notification of the ISP
    after third they move to disconnect you, at this point you can appeal to Ofcom and they will rule on the ban.
    If you lose this appeal you can appeal again within 20 days.

    Its not a case of the ISP monitoring you, the RIAA/Gov will do that possibly.
    No one has said though yet how long the ban will be for? a year or what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FN-GM View Post
    @ theblacksheep can you tell me what you mean please? The majority of people that torrent copyright projected content have no intentions of buying it
    Sorry for the confusion, thats what I meant, a download doesn't equal a sale.... so no tax is lost, because they probably wouldnt buy it at those overinflated prices.

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    Does anyone know if this works. - https://torrentprivacy.com/ - If it does just sign upto that and the job is done.

    Also couldn't you just move to another ISP if you are banned? Or could you just open another broadband account in your partners name?

    Also if they monitor the IP addresses on a tracker such as the pirate bay they would be breaking the use policy. If the tracker owners wanted to could they take them to court?
    Last edited by FN-GM; 29th October 2009 at 12:48 PM.

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    doesnt peerguardian stop the mpaa and the riaa following your connection ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CPLTD View Post
    doesnt peerguardian stop the mpaa and the riaa following your connection ?
    Nope, but it can help but its only a ip filter, they all have ways around it easily.

    Tracking users on a tracker wouldnt break any terms tbh as its illegal activity. TPB has no idea who the *agents* are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeroHour View Post
    Nope, but it can help but its only a ip filter, they all have ways around it easily.

    Tracking users on a tracker wouldnt break any terms tbh as its illegal activity. TPB has no idea who the *agents* are.
    What about the site i posted?

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by FN-GM View Post
    What about the site i posted?

    Thanks
    Sorry I had seen your original unedited message when I posted. It works via a vpn to another country so in theory you *could* be safer as only DPI equipment can inspect vpn but a lot of isps now throttle all/some (like that site) vpn traffic would would mean pants speeds.
    The thing this wont cure is D2P traffic as there is no tracker as such. Thats what everyone will switch too. Megaupload/rapidshare must be loving all this....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeroHour View Post
    Sorry I had seen your original unedited message when I posted. It works via a vpn to another country so in theory you *could* be safer as only DPI equipment can inspect vpn but a lot of isps now throttle all/some (like that site) vpn traffic would would mean pants speeds.
    The thing this wont cure is D2P traffic as there is no tracker as such. Thats what everyone will switch too. Megaupload/rapidshare must be loving all this....
    Thanks

    PS: when i made an edit to the post i added this bit:
    Also if they monitor the IP addresses on a tracker such as the pirate bay they would be breaking the use policy. If the tracker owners wanted to could they take them to court?

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    dont use torrents... simple really theyre horrendus anyway

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    As has already been shown in US courts - an IP address does not equal guilt. Innocent until *proven* guilty is the key here. Not to mention, implementing legal actions without going through our existing courts (ie. creating dedicated 'tribunals') is a little odd.

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