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    Lightbulb Oracle Buys Sun

    Oracle appears to have just purchased Sun for $7.4 billion, looks like all that Sun gear will have rock solid support for Oracle DBs and stuff and a more stable capital base to honor warrenties etc.

    Original Source: Slashdot | Oracle Buys Sun

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    Quote Originally Posted by SYNACK View Post
    Oracle appears to have just purchased Sun for $7.4 billion, looks like all that Sun gear will have rock solid support for Oracle DBs and stuff and a more stable capital base to honor warrenties etc.

    Original Source: Slashdot | Oracle Buys Sun
    Makes no sense. Wait... MySQL... oh dear.

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    Interesting acquisition! Should make for a different future for the company!

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    Quote Originally Posted by matt40k View Post
    Makes no sense. Wait... MySQL... oh dear.
    Right, where's my copy of Postgres for dummies gone?

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    They already have several open source databases in their line-up. I'd see them targetting the database more myself. ie. Push high end customers to Oracle 11g and point those who are running smaller things to Mysql. Whatever happens, Mysql is an open source product, so if they mess it up, it can always be reborn.

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    To be serious though, I can't see mysql being canned, its a direct route to a lot of potential customers that would be silly to throw away.

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    I can see it being renamed. silly to can it, I can see more limits like MSSQL has.

    Still, it'll just go like Redhat. Redhat and Centos. up2date\yum. New name, same thing.

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    Oh dear god. Do I really want a 7110 from a company owned by Oracle?

    *flashbacks of "no you can't patch $gaping_security_hole, Oracle depends on that to work"*

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete View Post
    Oh dear god. Do I really want a 7110 from a company owned by Oracle?

    *flashbacks of "no you can't patch $gaping_security_hole, Oracle depends on that to work"*
    Different departments\sub-companies. The problems of SIMS .net doesn't stop you getting your TV license (ok bad example!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by matt40k View Post
    Different departments\sub-companies. The problems of SIMS .net doesn't stop you getting your TV license (ok bad example!)
    I'm more worried that they'll ditch the hardware / sell it off to someone random who'll can the product line and leave me with no upgrade path.

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    @Pete

    Be rather stupid if they did. Can't image them dropping the hardware. They have a large enough customer base to keep them ticking over. They're still making Sparc based machines, which excel with Oracle, I would expect more Sparc machines in the future. They seems to be expanding in the Education sector, which i'm glad about.

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    The purchase is most likely to utilise the hardware and software portfolio to become a systems provider, and not simply a software or hardware seller. ie. they can provide a full system - hardware, OS, database software, management systems etc... in one go. One port of call, one support contract.

    To be honest, their offerings would look to be more complete than even IBM's at the moment. If they do it right anyway.

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    does this mean battle lines are drawn ? oracle-on-solaris-on-sparc64 vs DB2-on-AIX-on-power ??

    ..FIGHT!!!!

    i wonder if some oracle customers running the db on ibm unix or hp unix hardware might be getting one or two 'incentives' to switch [or switch back] to sun hardware, can/will oracle remain neutral or will the mere fact of sun being oracle owned help to bump up their server and storage market share ?

    Or did oracle buy sun primarily for the software stack ? as in their previous acquisitions. I agree this makes more sense than ibm buying sun, but just wondering what oracle will want to do with the servrs and storage part of the business. it's new territory for them i would have thought.

    as for mysql, it's never really competed with oracle where it matters. But i'm sure oracle would like to chase the smb market where sql server seems to reign supreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by torledo View Post
    as for mysql, it's never really competed with oracle where it matters. But i'm sure oracle would like to chase the smb market where sql server seems to reign supreme.
    So those calls from Oracle I get here won't be a complete waste of my time in future? That'll be nice

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    Quote Originally Posted by localzuk View Post
    The purchase is most likely to utilise the hardware and software portfolio to become a systems provider, and not simply a software or hardware seller. ie. they can provide a full system - hardware, OS, database software, management systems etc... in one go. One port of call, one support contract.

    To be honest, their offerings would look to be more complete than even IBM's at the moment. If they do it right anyway.
    that's actually a really good point. IBM do have the db [DB2], the hardware, unix OS [AIX], the business intelligence software [cognos]. What IBM lack is the LOB [line of business] applications such as ERP and CRM systems. Sun now has a fairly complete package, although as far as management systems go both HP and IBM have far more mature and complete products with tivoli and openview. But Sun/Oracle can tie up with the likes of symantec and other companies to offer comparable products.

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