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    Put young children on DNA list, urge police

    As if I didn't have enough to do already...

    Primary school children should be eligible for the DNA database if they exhibit behaviour indicating they may become criminals in later life, according to Britain's most senior police forensics expert.

    Gary Pugh, director of forensic sciences at Scotland Yard and the new DNA spokesman for the Association of Chief Police Officers (Acpo), said a debate was needed on how far Britain should go in identifying potential offenders, given that some experts believe it is possible to identify future offending traits in children as young as five.
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/20...stice.children

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    ah yes, my nabaztag rudely read this out very loud last night as I was trying to get to sleep.

    I think it's a good thing... teach the little B@5t@rd$!!!

    heheh....

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    Good grief... why don't they just do DNA swabs on birth of everyone for pete's sake.

    I wouldn't be so anti-DNA database storage if it weren't for the fact that it involves the government, computers and the usual plethora of idiots trying to run/abuse both. Show me a secure database system that cannot be hacked, abused and is completely fool proof from all stages including data entry to searches and I'll happily provide my DNA, along with proof that pigs fly in formation. Give me strength...

    Irony? what irony?

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    And lets also get em all RFID implated at the same time.

    Has anyone been watching Last Enemy, for a good perspective on the whole information database stuff.

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    Is Linux packaged with Doom.... I hadn't noticed if it is!

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    Quote Originally Posted by StewartKnight View Post
    Is Linux packaged with Doom.... I hadn't noticed if it is!
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    Put young children on DNA list, urge police

    Hi,
    I check this site as you given. This is very Awesome information about young children on DNA.

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    If they could keep the data safe, I would agree with taking everyone’s DNA. If you have got nothing to hide what will be the problem? It will reduce time in catching criminals such as Soham murders. The police will catch more people who commit crime thus making our country a safer place. It could even possibly reduce crime, people may think again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FN-Greatermanchester View Post
    If they could keep the data safe, I would agree with taking everyone’s DNA. If you have got nothing to hide what will be the problem?
    Sort of... But what happens when having a genetic predisposition to green eyes becomes an offence? Or being of Jewish/Muslim/French descent?

    Couldn't happen again? Yugoslavia or Rwanda recent enough for you?
    Last edited by Andrew_C; 5th April 2008 at 04:24 PM. Reason: typo

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    Given the government can't look after a couple of CDs, I'd hate to think what they could do with my DNA.

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    Yes i know what you mean, thats why i said if they could keep them safe. What was the outcome of that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FN-Greatermanchester View Post
    If they could keep the data safe, I would agree with taking everyone’s DNA. If you have got nothing to hide what will be the problem? It will reduce time in catching criminals such as Soham murders. The police will catch more people who commit crime thus making our country a safer place. It could even possibly reduce crime, people may think again.
    Sounds like Jacqui Smith has assumed you're online identity...

    The whole argument about having nothing do hide doesn't hold up under scrutiny - plenty of cases of innocent people being implicated in a crime based on dna record mixups. Don't forget our police force are very busy in populating the dna database. We have a very high percentage of the population on the database. 1 out of 20 people is already on the dbase compared to 1 out of 200 in the US.

    It's an issue of looking at the organizations in charge and they're record on infringing on our personal freedoms in the name of security and solving crimes.

    Don't forget a lot of these police officials support crackpot ideas like national id cards, extension of the current 28 days detension for questioning of terror suspects when neither is necessary. Same with compulsary dna swabs.

    They should actually focus on sharing information between regional police forces, and the failure to provide the necessary information to the relevant agencies, which were exposed following the soham murderers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by torledo View Post
    Sounds like Jacqui Smith has assumed you're online identity...

    The whole argument about having nothing do hide doesn't hold up under scrutiny - plenty of cases of innocent people being implicated in a crime based on dna record mixups.

    Don't forget a lot of these police officials support crackpot ideas like national id cards, extension of the current 28 days detension for questioning of terror suspects when neither is necessary. Same with compulsary dna swabs.
    Yes and plenty of innocent people convicted before DNA so what does it matter?

    As for ID cards - so what if you had to carry one - makes no difference except to criminals.

    The "personal freedoms" I'd like to see are things like being able to walk down the street unaccosted, the right to park my car without it getting nicked/vandalised etc, the right to not get burgled - anything the police can do to help with this would be good - if having a dna database helps them catch criminals quicker so be it. I'm with Zak on this - it's only a problem if you have something to hide!
    Last edited by jcollings; 5th April 2008 at 04:52 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew_C View Post
    Sort of... But what happens when having a genetic predisposition to green eyes becomes an offence? Or being of Jewish/Muslim/French descent?

    Couldn't happen again? Yugoslavia or Rwanda recent enough for you?
    That could happen with or without DNA databses!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcollings View Post
    That could happen with or without DNA databses!
    But why give them another tool to abuse?

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