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IT News Thread, Microsoft announces the Surface Pro 3 in Other News; Isn't Paul Thurrott impressed by everything with a Microsoft logo? :P The argument about the keyboard & lap usability would ...
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    Isn't Paul Thurrott impressed by everything with a Microsoft logo? :P

    The argument about the keyboard & lap usability would be easily solved by something like a hard aluminium keyboard that the tablet could dock in to. Kinda like the HP Envy X2. This would certainly give it more of a comfortable use on the lap.

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    I really hope they have these on the Microsoft stand at ISTE next month. If they do, rest assured we'll let you know that they are like

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoom7000 View Post
    Isn't Paul Thurrott impressed by everything with a Microsoft logo? :P
    Nah.... even he didn't like windows 8

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    Surface Pro 3 « Penny Arcade

    The Surface Pro 3 does a lot of stuff right. The device is ridiculously light and thin. It still manages to feel sturdy and well built though. The new screen is absolutely beautiful and the extra couple of inches makes a big difference when using it. There will be plenty of great reviews of this machine from all different perspectives, but today I'm just going to talk about how the Surface Pro 3 works for artists.

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    I've read through the Surface 3 pre-order page and the pricing/spec options have left me feeling somewhat frustrated. On the face of it that seems like a pretty good deal but the base model comes with a near useless 64Gb SSD which only has 23Gb free out of the box. To get up to the spec I'd want with a 256Gb SSD and 8Gb RAM it costs £1109 and even then I need to add keyboard cover at an additional £110. That comes to a much more substantial £1220 which is nearly double what the base model costs!
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    Quote Originally Posted by flyinghaggis View Post
    the base model comes with a near useless 64GB SSD which only has 23GB free out of the box.
    Where are you getting the 23GB figure from? Microsoft's website says it has > 36GB available out-of-the-box.

    Quote Originally Posted by flyinghaggis View Post
    To get up to the spec I'd want with a 256GB SSD and 8GB RAM it costs £1,109 and even then I need to add keyboard cover at an additional £110. That comes to a much more substantial £1,220 which is nearly double what the base model costs!
    It's a bit cheaper if you qualify for edu pricing: £998.10 + £109.99 = £1,108.09.

    For comparison, a 13" MacBook Air with 8GB RAM and a 256GB SSD costs £1,015.20 on the Apple Edu Store and that has a rubbish LCD (low-res TN panel, no touch or digitizer) and slightly slower Core i5 processor. The Surface Pro 3 is only £92.89 more expensive in this instance.

    A touch-screen Asus Transformer Book T300LA is currently £956.97 (reduced from £1,104.97) and that only has 4GB RAM and a 1920x1080 LCD.

    Even if you ignore the edu pricing, the Surface Pro 3 is still competitively priced for the features it offers. You're right that they should offer more storage, but I suppose that's up selling for you.

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    it still makes no sense not to have a 128gb i3 that to me would be the "butter zone" and lets be honest id bet it would cost ms less than £10

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    @Arthur

    Thanks for the heads up about the educational discount. I hadn't realised MS offered that. Regarding the 23Gb of free space that must have been for the last gen surface. 36Gb is still far from really usable by the time you install a couple of apps and service packs/patches in future though.

    I guess in the scheme of things compared to the competition it is competitively priced but I think they could have offered more cost effective combinations of spec. 128Gb SSD should really be the minimum and they shouldn't force you to buy the upgraded i5 CPU in order to get it. That and the keyboard should be bundled with the device and not a £110 extra.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flyinghaggis View Post
    36GB is still far from really usable by the time you install a couple of apps and service packs/patches in future though.
    The 64GB model is probably fine for people who need a tablet for web browsing, Microsoft Office / OneNote and not much else.

    The Surface Pro 3 most likely uses the new WIMBoot feature of Windows 8.1 Update 1 so I don't think it will run out of space due to Windows updates etc.

    Windows image file boot (WIMBoot) lets you set up a PC so that it runs directly from a compressed Windows image file (WIM file).

    WIMBoot can significantly reduce the amount of space used by Windows files. This helps you provide more free space to users, and helps you manufacture Windows on PCs with smaller drives.

    [...]

    When installing Windows with WIMBoot, you write the files to the disk only once, in compressed format. Next, you apply a set of pointer files onto the Windows partition that point back to the compressed files in the Images partition. When the user adds files, apps, or updates, they're added onto the Windows partition.

    In WIMBoot, your WIMBoot image is also used as the recovery image, saving disk space.
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    iFixIt have posted a teardown of the Surface Pro 3 and have given it a score of 1 out of 10 for repairability. In the process of taking it apart they also cracked the screen!

    Microsoft Surface Pro 3 Teardown


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur View Post
    iFixIt have posted a teardown of the Surface Pro 3 and have given it a score of 1 out of 10 for repairability. In the process of taking it apart they also cracked the screen!

    Microsoft Surface Pro 3 Teardown

    Looks a bit of a mess! I don't expect most tablets to have a good score when it comes to repairability they're normally very small components compressed into and even smaller shell, screws and brackets are normally the last thing on the companies mind when trying to make an i5 Ultra Book fit in a small tablet. This wouldn't bother me so much!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur View Post
    iFixIt have posted a teardown of the Surface Pro 3 and have given it a score of 1 out of 10 for repairability. In the process of taking it apart they also cracked the screen!

    Microsoft Surface Pro 3 Teardown

    It's a sad state of affairs with the newer tablets and smartphones that most will have the same lack of repairability as they get smaller and more compact. It kinda ensures that you are forced to go back to the manufacturer for expensive repairs!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pcstru View Post
    Someone not impressed by Surface Pro 3
    So Linus loves how thin and sleek the new Surface Pro 3 is compared to the previous models, but wants Microsoft to make it thicker in order to store the pen inside the tablet (something he admits he wouldn't use). Yeah, that makes sense!



    Left: SP2 / Right: SP3

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