First use of section 3 of the RIPA act

[Geoff]

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/11...on_key_notice/

Unsurprisingly, not being used to combat 'terrorism' and also being used retroactively.

[rhyds]

I don't want to jump to a conclusion here, but I personally do see some animal rights activists as terrorists and their methods can be very violent and in the case of the old lady's corpse that was exhumed, plain evil.

[ICT_GUY]

http://www.videosift.com/video/Steph...A-Police-State

You have no rights and you need to embrace a different definition of privacy.

[enjay]

I don't want to jump to a conclusion here, but I personally do see some animal rights activists as terrorists and their methods can be very violent and in the case of the old lady's corpse that was exhumed, plain evil.

Having inadvertently got caught up in an animal rights protest, I have to say I agree with that.

It was a cause with a local focus, as I used to live near a large animal research lab, and some of the acts carried out against the staff - and sadly their families - could easily be classed as terrorism. I know of someone who used to work for one such lab until they felt forced to leave both the company and the area due to the nature of the threats and intimidation towards them.

Some animal rights activists - and please note I am not saying this of all of them - operate in a violent, threatening, destructive (including use of bombs) and organised manner. That, to me, is terrorism.

[Geoff]

Mulling over if animal rights activists are terrorists is dodging the real issue don't you think?

[enjay]

Mulling over if animal rights activists are terrorists is dodging the real issue don't you think?

So they unencrypt the files, find out what they're planning on firebombing and prevent it? Shocking...

This is nothing new though - the RIPA Act should be viewed in the same light as the existing ones regarding use of phone taps, etc, it's just been updated to reflect technological advances.

I'm not condoning a Big Brother state by any means, but I am in favour of measures being used against people who the Police/MI5/MI6 believe to present a threat.

[CyberNerd]

plausible deniability:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plausible_deniability
http://www.truecrypt.org/:

[Diello]

Noun 1. terrorism - the calculated use of violence (or the threat of violence) against civilians in order to attain goals that are political or religious or ideological in nature; this is done through intimidation or coercion or instilling fear.

Nowhere does it say terrorists have to be foreign or a religious exteremist, we've just come to associate it more with those elements post 9/11.

Dodging the real issue? Not at all - The RIPA is being used to prevent crime, a rather good use for it me thinks.

Her tone of language is telling:

"...(which was stolen by police thugs in May this year) ... "Now I have been 'invited' (how nice, will there be tea and biccies?) to ... keep their great big hooters out of my private affairs ..."

Hmm... one of the times the police have made a good move.

[ICT_GUY]

Torture ok?

No, unless its your closest allly doing it.

What annoys me is that 550 each year are killed on the roads due to drink.
3000 on the roads for various reasons.
50 due to guns.
78 due to terror attacks.

Which ones get the most headlines?

Oh and contrast to the deaths in Iraq 55 per day last year. but yeah we really need more terror laws and more anti gun legislation rather than vote loosing lower speed limits and no more oil wars :?