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    Microsoft To Acquire Nokia's Devices And Services Business,...

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    See what the BBC said:
    Another consequence of the action will be that Stephen Elop, Nokia's chief executive, returns to Microsoft just three years after he left. His experience running the handset firm has to make him a favourite to replace Steve Ballmer bearing in mind the Microsoft boss has pledged to stand down within 12 months.
    !?!?!? So Elop leaves MS for Nokia, issues the 'burning platform' memo and essentially drives nokia into the ground after pairing with MS. Then MS gets to buy Nokia at a cut down price and Elop returns. hmmm.

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    The BBC are running with this article: BBC News - Microsoft to buy Nokia's mobile phone unit
    They point to the fact that Microsoft have been slow to react to the massive increase in the tablet/smartphone sectors and the corresponding decrease in PC/laptops sales. I can sort of see their point. I think that the problem Microsoft has is that they have actually been in the market since the very early days, especially in the tablet/touch screen area. What they don't do very well is to keep developing it. Ever since XP for tablets and Windows mobile you could have a device that used a touch interface (albeit only usable with a stylus in most cases), but there had been no further development in those areas. Sort of brings to mind the whole IE 6 debacle.
    Many of us here has used Windows tablets over 10 years ago and touch based Windows phones at least a couple of years before the iPhone emerged.
    But, they now have Windows 8 and Windows Phone 8 to build upon, and hopefully they can begin to get back some momentum. What they shouldn't do is rest on their laurels and let an idea/product stagnate as they have done too many times in the past. Microsoft used to innovate a lot more than they do now, what they should do is ensure that they have teams in each product area that will keep it fresh and current and perhaps with the potential purchase of Nokia's mobile division they will get the skills and vision they need to keep Windows Phone a current and future handheld OS.

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    I'm waiting for Tomi Ahonen's blog to update with this news. He's an ex-Nokia exec with 'strong views' about Elop.

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    @CyberNerd - which sage, which seer of visions, could possibly have foreseen this happening?
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    I would suggest this is MS trying to become like Apple.

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    Ooh two companies for Elop to drive into the ground. Awesome.

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    Windows phone is a complete waste of space anyway. Interesting strategy to buy Nokia at a cut down price

    I always wondered what the sales would have been like if the Lumia ran on Android!

    Good strategy by Microsoft though. Now they just need to write a Mobile OS that doesn't look like a children's toy

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    Quote Originally Posted by zag View Post
    Windows phone is a complete waste of space anyway. Interesting strategy to buy Nokia at a cut down price

    I always wondered what the sales would have been like if the Lumia ran on Android!

    Good strategy by Microsoft though. Now they just need to write a Mobile OS that doesn't look like a children's toy
    You haven't seen the next version of iOS then?!

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    This may backfire horribly as all other device manufacturers decide that it's stupid to try and compete with MS/Nokia with Windows Phone devices, much like the Windows RT experiment. Microsoft not having to pay licensing to itself doesn't half give them an edge on profit margins/device value.

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    Can't see that its a great strategy myself, tying up a dying device manufacturer with an OS that has a minuscule market share?
    I agree that other manufacturers will probably swerve Win Phone now which won't help matters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonofsanta View Post
    This may backfire horribly as all other device manufacturers decide that it's stupid to try and compete with MS/Nokia with Windows Phone devices, much like the Windows RT experiment. Microsoft not having to pay licensing to itself doesn't half give them an edge on profit margins/device value.
    The licensing is quite a thing. If you look here (Form 10-K) you'd be forgiven for thinking that WP brings in $1.2bn. However, the lions share of that cash comes from Android licensing. (Microsoft's new billion-dollar business: Android patents? - GeekWire)

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparkeh View Post
    Can't see that its a great strategy myself, tying up a dying device manufacturer with an OS that has a minuscule market share?
    I agree that other manufacturers will probably swerve Win Phone now which won't help matters.
    Like it ever hurt Apple?
    Admittedly that is another kettle of fish altogether, but Nokia was int trouble before it ever teamed up with Microsoft, and this may actually give the company the focus it needs. Windows Phone as an OS is actually very good as quite a few 'geekers can testify. What it does not have is the kind of platform base Android has i.e. with some powerful and extreme hardware thrown into some devices.
    With Apple you get what you are given (and pay a premium for it), with Android you get whatever the various hardware manufactures think you will pay out for with specs to match. Which direction Microsoft will take shall be very interesting indeed.

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    They just want the patent portfolio to go bashing Apple/Google/Samsung etc with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dos_Box View Post
    Like it ever hurt Apple?
    Admittedly that is another kettle of fish altogether
    Yes its completely different. Apple release a (at the time) revolutionary product, made people want it and made the iThing a lifestyle choice that a lot of people bought/still buy into. MS + Nokia is taking two unpopular and uncool items that the majority of people don't want, merging them at, probably, the expense of having the other, small amount, of other manufacturer handsets on the market.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dos_Box View Post
    but Nokia was int trouble before it ever teamed up with Microsoft, and this may actually give the company the focus it needs.
    Well yes Nokia wasn't doing that well before Elop took over, but after he burned the platform and hooked up with MS things are significantly worse. Market share and share price has collapsed. Yes he managed to cut some costs, which needed doing at Nokia, but tech companies don't grow my cutting the bottom line, the top line counts and he made a mess of it. Tying up with MS hasn't succeeded and this event just ties them closer.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dos_Box View Post
    Windows Phone as an OS is actually very good as quite a few 'geekers can testify. What it does not have is the kind of platform base Android has i.e. with some powerful and extreme hardware thrown into some devices.
    Yeah, I haven't used it myself but I know that people who do actually think its good. As as become usual under Ballmer, MS made a right mess of the mobile market. Possibly its too late for Windows Phone as the market it sewn up between Apple and Android (Samsung in particular) and something major would have to happen to recover from that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dos_Box View Post
    Nokia was int trouble before it ever teamed up with Microsoft, and this may actually give the company the focus it needs.
    Nokia wasn't in trouble at all before Elop screwed them~; Communities Dominate Brands: The Final Reckoning: Burning Platforms Memo Damaged Nokia: Wiped out $13B revenues, Destroyed $4B profits in just 12 months

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