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    They better not go down the apple route and solder Ram to the motherboard.
    To be fair they are not the only ones and where not the first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FN-GM View Post
    To be fair they are not the only ones and where not the first.
    no course they are not but probably one of the largest and high profile

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    Quote Originally Posted by glennda View Post
    no course they are not but probably one of the largest and high profile
    A good part of their role in tech is taking smarmy practices and making them mainstream enough for the others to pull it off without being sued. 30%+ off the top on every purchase of apps or content (yeap) and now everyone else actually has to to that with stuff like books as the Apple contract mandates the rip-off extends to all other providers. Locked in app store, non-replaceable batteries, hardware locked software (OSX - Win RT) etc. etc.

    Apple - normalising evil for at least the last decade.

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    Surely, if processors are coming out as BGA only, that just opens up the market for somebody to start making bga-lga and lga-bga adaptors?

    Great news for manufacturers of hot air soldering kit too.

    Bit of a PITA overall though.

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    It's also a bit of a risky one for motherboard manufacturers as they'll have to get their stocks of CPUs exactly right or face being stuck with a bunch of boards no-one wants when new CPUs come out. Might also suggest a slower rate of change in terms of new tech as the CPU now becomes an integral part of the overall product rather than just another piece of the jigsaw.

    It's another part of the move to throwaway computing, something I don't like from a tech geek perspective but seems to be the way consumers go now (no doubt the only people to really benefit will be the large companies selling this locked down kit as usual).

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    I agree as already mentioned - soldered on for mobile computing, but separate for desktops and servers.

    In my IT experience I've only come across two dead CPUs, but many many more dead motherboards.

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    So all in all, another opportunity for Intel to artificially segment the market? They've run out of CPU features to do it with, so now they're having to extend it out onto motherboards.

    This is all your fault, AMD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonofsanta View Post

    This is all your fault, AMD.
    I suppose Intel would probably argue that Nvidia's Tegra and the other usual ARM suspects all do it so they're just following the crowd.....

    That and it helps Intel sell more chips....

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    Quote Originally Posted by gshaw View Post
    It's also a bit of a risky one for motherboard manufacturers as they'll have to get their stocks of CPUs exactly right or face being stuck with a bunch of boards no-one wants when new CPUs come out.
    And it will force motherboard manufacturers to actually bother testing their motherboards before launch. Replacing faulty £100 motherboards with £500 CPUs attached to them could quickly put them out of business!

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    CPU speed has meant nothing in the last 4-5 years. Anyone who says it does has been reading too much intel marketing material.

    The only upgrades worth doing are memory up to 3gb and an SSD drive.

    We still buy intel 2.7ghz dual cores (the ones before the "i" variety) and never had someone saying their cpu was at 100% and it was causing a bottleneck.

    If anything the CPU market is going downwards towards slower more power efficient processors. Just look at the direction Windows 8 is going.

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    I agree clock speed is less of an issue, but the number of cores is growing and will continue to grow. This allows lower power consumption and requires a much smaller heatsink and fan or no fan at all.

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