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    Microsoft doesn't have any plans for a second Windows 7 Service Pack

    Only a rumour, but sad if true.

    Source: The Register

    Waiting for a second Windows 7 Service Pack? Keep waiting – it doesn't sound like Microsoft will be releasing one.

    Sources close to Microsoft's sustained engineering team, which builds and releases service packs, have told The Register there are no plans for a second Windows 7 SP – breaking precedent on the normal cycle of updating Windows.

    Instead, Microsoft will keep updating Windows 7 using patches released each month until support for Windows 7 comes to an end. That date is currently slated for 24 months after the most current SP – that’s SP1, which was released in February 2011 – and would put end of life at February 2013.

    The decision not to release a second service pack for Windows 7 comes just at the time when Microsoft would typically be preparing to release the pack.

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    Maybe an Update Rollup then? At least it would be a lot smaller/easier to roll out

    In saying that though, Microsoft did it with Windows 2000, but haven't as yet with XP or Vista for that matter...

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    That's somewhat annoying - as that timescale of end of support means we end up with an out of support OS very quickly - and means businesses might end up forced onto Windows 8, which even people at MS have admitted is not going to suit businesses so well...

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    Quote Originally Posted by localzuk View Post
    That's somewhat annoying - as that timescale of end of support means we end up with an out of support OS very quickly - and means businesses might end up forced onto Windows 8, which even people at MS have admitted is not going to suit businesses so well...
    Oh, they'll keep updating it but it may just be through hotfixes, after the n'th screen of installing updates one of 50 you may just get the point they want you to update . This is what happens when marketing is above the engineering team on the food chain, a common problem in many companies now.

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    I think we need more cumulative updates for the key components for Windows 7, like cumulative security updates (akin to the IE ones) and update rollups. I did a test install of Windows 7 SP1 from RTM on Windows Update and it took over an hour! That's why I don't deploy it through WSUS - it would cause anarchy. We generally now either install SP1 separately or re-image the PC to an SP1 build. Having cumulative updates would prevent the number of updates for a clean SP1 install reaching sky high levels.

    This would be fine if Microsoft would incorporate the ton of hotfixes for Win 7 SP1 that you currently have to separately request into tested update rollups.
    Last edited by dhoward_westexetc; 24th October 2012 at 01:58 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur View Post
    Only a rumour, but sad if true.

    That date is currently slated for 24 months after the most current SP – that’s SP1, which was released in February 2011 – and would put end of life at February 2013.
    Supported is listed as 2015/2020 on MS website so not sure if el reg can be trusted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theblacksheep View Post
    Supported is listed as 2015/2020 on MS website so not sure if el reg can be trusted.
    Backed up here from the Microsoft Support Lifecycle page: Windows 7 Support
    Last edited by dhoward_westexetc; 24th October 2012 at 02:01 PM. Reason: fixed issue with URL link

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    There are something like 70 updates, or close to 90 if you have Windows 7 SP1 and Office 2010 SP1 installed. By 2015 there would be literally hundreds.... just as well we can image and update the number of hotfixes whatever Microsoft decided to do.

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    I can't belive that they wouldn't mash out another update - even Vista had a SP2 and there are so many hotfixes out there even for SP1 that should be included in a second service pack.

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    There's nothing stopping MS from supporting Win7 till 2015 without issuing another service pack. Just means the current service pack is supported until 2015 and you have to manage all future hotfixes yourself rather than wait for the SP. As linked above MS will continue producing hotfixes until 2015 and security fixes until 2020 regardless of whether or not there is another SP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tmcd35 View Post
    There's nothing stopping MS from supporting Win7 till 2015 without issuing another service pack. Just means the current service pack is supported until 2015 and you have to manage all future hotfixes yourself rather than wait for the SP. As linked above MS will continue producing hotfixes until 2015 and security fixes until 2020 regardless of whether or not there is another SP.
    Plus I am sure that several of the current hotfixes could be rolled up into update rollup packs....

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    This is the sort of thing I am getting at:

    Description of an update rollup for the printing core components in Windows 7 and in Windows Server 2008 R2

    This update roll up for the print core components replaces several other updates that had been individual hotfixes. I am wondering if we will see more updates like this instead of service packs for Win 7?

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    Well, we just have to look at the number of updates that you have to install in Windows XP after SP3. IIRC its about 130. Takes around an hour and a half.

    Can we look forward to this with Windows 7 too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by localzuk View Post
    Well, we just have to look at the number of updates that you have to install in Windows XP after SP3. IIRC its about 130. Takes around an hour and a half.

    Can we look forward to this with Windows 7 too?
    Probably, they have dropped the ball with updates too, you can't slipstream Office anymore, you can only 'kind of' slipstream 7 and the updates are still sequential. Faster than before but still annoying. If we are lucky they may magic something up for SCCM as they tend to do better for large businesses. Everyone else gets what is given, Apple is the opposite, consumers only and corp is the one getting the finger.

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    Very interesting! I wonder how many updates there will be in 2015?? haha.

    Personally I don't think any of the updates have made a blind bit of difference. They may fix obscure security vulnerabilities but assuming your using Google chrome or something there is very little chance they can cause any problems in the real world usage.

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