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New Project Ideas Thread, Out of Order Screen in EduGeek Projects; Think of all the machines that get left on during free periods and such - nobody seems to make a ...
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    Think of all the machines that get left on during free periods and such - nobody seems to make a stink about those.

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    I suppose in a way, if it was something you could stick on a memory stick.. if you disabled every other boot device and just booted from the memory stick that would work as then if the machine was rebooted it would boot into the removable device (memory Stick)

    just a thought

    James.

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    Hmm,

    I think it's a really good idea Hightower...but can see both sides of the argument.

    At my last school, they'd turn them off if they had a sign on them, or they'd turn them on..

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    I'm not sure exactly how hard it would be to create something like this - but if someone made it I'd be happy to test it out and feedback.

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    You would have to enable boot from USB (unless you want to play with BIOS every time) which will introduce a giant security hole

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midget View Post
    You would have to enable boot from USB (unless you want to play with BIOS every time) which will introduce a giant security hole
    +1 on that one. The other issue which has been touched on is that a lot of students (and staff?) would not be able to cope with a PC that is 'on' being out of order. It's either off, has a sign and is broken, or it's on and usable. Would just result in lots of resets, unplugging and plugging then a "can you come and look at the PC in..." here.

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    How about a VGA dongal that attaches to the monitor directly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gibbo View Post
    Just put an "out of order" sign on it or remove it from the room.
    And remember there are always Notices out of order available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gibbo View Post
    a solution to a problem that doesn't exist
    Hmmmm, after some thought I think you may be right.

    You would have to enable boot from USB (unless you want to play with BIOS every time) which will introduce a giant security hole
    Boot from USB is enabled - permanently. We build our computers from USB Flash/Floppy.

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    then you have no security on your network. No offence, but it is stupid to reply on security through obscurity. One bored kid will discover knoppix and start making your job harder

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hightower View Post
    Hmmmm, after some thought I think you may be right.



    Boot from USB is enabled - permanently. We build our computers from USB Flash/Floppy.
    What do you do about kiddies with USB boot Linux based penetration testing suites and other naughty toys?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OutToLunch View Post
    What do you do about kiddies with USB boot Linux based penetration testing suites and other naughty toys?
    Haha - you're joking right?! I know you are saying but it's never been a problem and at the minute the last task on my list is to go round changing 300 boot priorities. That said, some of the computers here have the option to choose boot up device without going in to BIOS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OutToLunch View Post
    +1 on that one. The other issue which has been touched on is that a lot of students (and staff?) would not be able to cope with a PC that is 'on' being out of order. It's either off, has a sign and is broken, or it's on and usable. Would just result in lots of resets, unplugging and plugging then a "can you come and look at the PC in..." here.
    Most people have a job coping with anything being out of order - over the summer I worked in Tesco, and people would try to scan their shopping through a self service till which was crashed, off, or booting, and had a laminated notice saying "This facility is temporarily out of order" in big letters attached to the screen. So whatever happens, some idiot will still try to use it!

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    Had an idea

    I've had an idea on how to do this. You could make a USB device boot into DOS and then using some ASCII art to display your sign. Not sure about stopping inputs though?

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    To be honest, I usually get a piece of paper and write "out of order" and that's that. I also make a point of removing the power lead.

    Yes, believe it or not I've had some twits remove the sign and try to use it anyway!



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