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    Machines returning same IP address

    Not sure how to explain this one, but we have about 250 machines on the network, but there are about 4 or 5 machines that when i try to ping them by the computer name they return the same IP address.

    Hopefully this is something easy to resolve.

    Have attached screen shot of two computers i know about.
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    Hmmm are these machines reporting IP conflicts at all? what happens if you do nslookup for both machines?

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    I'd check the DNS entries on the server. I take it they have different IPs when you do ipconfig on the machines locally.

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    Enable scavanging on your rDNS zone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SYSMAN_MK View Post
    I'd check the DNS entries on the server. I take it they have different IPs when you do ipconfig on the machines locally.
    Yes if i were to do ipconfig on the machine themselves it would bring up different IPs

    I am not sure how i would check the DNS entries on the server, any chance you could explain where to look.

    The computers themselves all work and connect, but for some reason i cant ping them by name.

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    This is what nslookup reports

    Quote Originally Posted by Jona View Post
    Hmmm are these machines reporting IP conflicts at all? what happens if you do nslookup for both machines?
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    In the above examples, what are those two machines real IP addresses?

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    staff-01 has 10.64.17.176
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoff View Post
    In the above examples, what are those two machines real IP addresses?

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    I would firstly flush the local dns cache (ipconfig /flushdns)

    Then repeat what youve done. If it the same then goto the DNS management console on your server or wks (administrative tools->DNS) Look at your forward lookup zones, in the domain name you should see a list of A records. Look for the entry and see if they have repeats, you can delete them here. Then do an ipconfig /registerdns and they should reappear in the dns properly. If someone has added them manually there could also be a C Name record for example, just check the names.
    If this has happened then for it to work proper in the future the DNS scavenge needs to be switched on and setup with the right settings (as well as dhcp). Actually that reminds me about mine

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    yep. IPCONFIG /FLUSHDNS.

    I end up doing it here sometimes..Netsupport does something similar on rare occasions..heh.

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    We sometimes get duplicate entries in our DNS I guess because the machine aren't sometimes renamed or removed from the domain properly just delete the bad entires in DNS

    @ Geoff how would you enable scavanging on your rDNS zone and should this be something thats done on a LAN?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FatBoy View Post
    We sometimes get duplicate entries in our DNS I guess because the machine aren't sometimes renamed or removed from the domain properly just delete the bad entires in DNS

    @ Geoff how would you enable scavanging on your rDNS zone and should this be something thats done on a LAN?
    right click on the zone, and there's an option to set scavenging time or something like that. I believe the default is 14 days but You can then set the aging time in days to whatever you wish. There's also an option to scavenge resource records now, although can't remember if that's under rDNS options or somewhere else.

    We set scavenging to seven days and tried the scavenge now option...neither worked, so i think i'll have to just delete the duplicate records manually.

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    Your scavenging period should be set to the duration of your DHCP leases.
    It's a common mistake to change DHCP lease durations without changing the DNS scavenging periods.
    This results in discrepancies in your DNS/DHCP databases with machines appearing to have the same or duplicate IP addresses in the DNS zone.
    Whilst this does not normally affect the client PC's themselves if they share files or printers, others will not be able to find them and Group Policies will regularly fail to apply on machines with multiple reverse DNS entries.

    Others have already correctly advised you how to set this.

    DNS DNS DNS, this is the core of Windows AD get this right and the rest is like falling off a log!
    Get it wrong and your AD will eventually die, along with your reputation.

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    What kind of times do people have the leases set to? The default setting or something shorter?

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    Lightbulb

    Ours is set to 8 days but I think it's got a lot to d with how many clients you have and what sort of DHCP range size you have set.

    Also FYI I was looking around some of are settings and if you right click on your Scope in DHCP and go to properties, then the DNS tab and under here you have "Enable DNS dynamic updates according to the setting below". Ours was set to only update if the clients requests it so I have now changed it to "Always dynamically update DNS A nad PTR records"


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