Network and Classroom Management Thread, Burconix - BCX Management Tools in Technical; Currently considering a move from CC3 to vanilla, but with third-party management tool on top, e.g. CSE or Burconix. CSE ...
28th March 2011, 03:13 PM #1
Burconix - BCX Management Tools
Currently considering a move from CC3 to vanilla, but with third-party management tool on top, e.g. CSE or Burconix. CSE looks great, but is quite pricey; my concern with Burconix is that it is using a server-side process and client agent, and given the problems which this model generates RM, I have my concerns. Can someone with BCX comment on the stability or otherwise of the product?
28th March 2011, 04:13 PM #2
We have no problems at all with BCX (it's many, many times better than CSE IME). We use Prism Pack with it, and deploy applications, shortcuts, printers and wallpapers. You're welcome to visit and see it in action.
28th March 2011, 04:31 PM #3
What makes you say that?
Originally Posted by powdarrmonkey
28th March 2011, 05:10 PM #4
28th March 2011, 05:18 PM #5
Okay, can we quantify these remarks a bit please?!
28th March 2011, 05:24 PM #6
Don't you mean qualify?
28th March 2011, 05:26 PM #7
Errors everywhere, use some ugly CSE desktop manager (if you use it), random crashes was such a relief going vanilla, I find it much quicker going vanilla than any other way there are tools for everything and free
28th March 2011, 10:04 PM #8
I used them both for considerable time each. CSE is a variety of hacked-together outfits that they have bought out; the management section crashed for no reason at times, and memory usage is silly - although to be fair to it, it stood us in good stead. BCX is like a breath of fresh air though: it does have occasional bugs, but as we were a beta school we ironed most of them out with the developers, and as a result it's more reliable, slimmer and does what we want without the trimmings.
Originally Posted by enjay
The one part of CSE we've kept is Recovery Manager; that's saved many a girl from disaster.
Last edited by powdarrmonkey; 28th March 2011 at 10:08 PM.
28th March 2011, 10:05 PM #9
Incidentally, CSE has the same server-client multicast model, so it's six of one...
29th March 2011, 09:45 AM #10
Can anyone compare using Burconix with going entirely vanilla, using the supplied Windows Server tools (WDS, WSUS, AIK) and then with something like SCCM on top? This is something we're looking at currently, and last night having taken a brief look around SCCM I really can't understand why anyone would pay £sillymoney for the above tools on top?
(Incidentally, we're having a nose around another member's BCX school today - just like as many thoughts/opinions as possible )
29th March 2011, 09:50 AM #11
Certainly - start a new thread for that rather than changing the topic of this one, and I'm sure people will be happy to share their thoughts...
Originally Posted by synaesthesia
29th March 2011, 09:54 AM #12
Quite possibly, yes. Although saying "it crashed 4 times a day" would be quantifying it!
Originally Posted by dwhyte85
29th March 2011, 09:56 AM #13
@powdarrmonkey - how recent is your experience with CSE?
29th March 2011, 10:03 AM #14
Reason I posted here is as a possible BCX user - trying to find out what makes it so much better than vanilla. Nothing against BCX - need to find the pros and cons of each.
29th March 2011, 10:15 AM #15
Understood, my apologies for jumping on you like that. My reasoning behind a management system is that I don't feel I have the time - or, if we're being honest, expertise with Server 2008 - to effectively manage the network purely using native MS tools. Management tools often make tasks quicker than native, and that time-saving would allow me to concentrate on the rest of my job.
We're currently RM, so are a bit limited there, however once "normal" 2008/Win7 are in, I intend to use my chosen product whilst doing a decent evaluation of whether it is better done with or without a management tool, although I may well stick with it even once I know more about 2008.
Thanks to enjay from:
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