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    Re: Disabling internet in one room.

    i have it working on a per room basis with ISA server. fortunately we've always used static addreses with a subnet per room.
    adding and removing rooms from an access rule is a total pain in the a$$ so i created a web backend in asp that allows me to add rooms easily and be safe in the knowledge that a scheduled script will remove them at the end of lessons.

    attached asp files if anyone is interested.
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    Re: Disabling internet in one room.

    Re: LanView3

    Just to let everyone know, the problem with accessing the internet through windows explorer is fixed in the latest client and server releases. This is available at my site www.mst-software.co.uk/portal/

    I still need feedback on this.

    Note that there are Windows 2003 server issues I am trying to resolve. Details in the LV3 Support part of the site.

    As always, test new releases on one or two PC's before installing on all PC's, especially with this release as the way of banning is radically different.

    Regards

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    Re: Disabling internet in one room.

    We use a script to map to the C of each machine in a suite (via batch file), and run CACLS to set permissions on IEXPLORE.EXE, MSHTML.DLL and a few others to deny student access, followed by taskkill to remove any instances of IE that may be running at the time.

    Takes 30-40 seconds to knock off a room, about the same to re-enable. Teacher-wise, I'm looking to develop a "nice" interface using an image map of the suites or similar.

    The kids really hate the script. *grin*

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    Re: Disabling internet in one room.

    Sounds great SirBendy! gimme! ...er, any chance of sharing that

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    Re: Disabling internet in one room.

    One sec...I'll poke the CCTV server.

    OK...all our machines are named "taw900wxxx" where xxx is the numeric ID.

    Here is the "Internet on" script:

    net use i: \\taw900w%1\c$
    cacls i:\progra~1\intern~1\iexplore.exe /e /p students:r
    cacls i:\windows\system32\mshtml.dll /e /p students:r
    cacls i:\progra~1\window~3\wmplayer.exe /e /p students:r
    cacls i:\progra~1\window~3\mplayer2.exe /e /p students:r
    cacls i:\windows\system32\atl.dll /e /p students:r
    net use i: /delete


    Here's the "internet off" script:

    net use i: \\taw900w%1\c$
    cacls i:\progra~1\intern~1\iexplore.exe /e /d students
    cacls i:\windows\system32\mshtml.dll /e /d students
    cacls i:\progra~1\window~3\wmplayer.exe /e /d students
    cacls i:\progra~1\window~3\mplayer2.exe /e /d students
    cacls i:\windows\system32\atl.dll /e /d students
    taskkill /s taw900w%1 /im iexplore.exe
    net use i: /delete

    I have them saved as "on.bat" and "off.bat" respectively. Literally, to "ban" the net on..say w133, you'd type "off 133", then "on 133" to enable it again.

    I then just wrote another batch file script to prompt with a text menu for the 4 suites, and to choose between "on" and "off".

    Literally, the batch file just calls "on" or "off" with the machine numbers I want to do, one after the other.

    (it also kills Windows Media Player, and Mplayer classic. Just a personal hatred)

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    Re: Disabling internet in one room.

    That a nice script. Would you mind if I converted it to vb script and stuck a basic front end on it and resposted it? Giving you credit ofc.

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    Re: Disabling internet in one room.

    go for it.. No problems here!

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    Re: Disabling internet in one room.

    Oooh! Too nice!

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    Re: Disabling internet in one room.

    Metalmonkey,

    I've tried the latest version of Lanviewer3 on one machine, and it seems to work fine. I'll extend it to a classroom today, and let you know if the kids manage to hack it next week.

    Thanks for the software!

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    Re: Disabling internet in one room.

    Thanks for the update. The IAM feature is working here, but we've had to made substational changes to our network to make it work due to the fact Windows Explorer always allows access.

    A full article on all known workarounds is here, along with possible solutions.

    Some people might not like the changes that need to be made though.

    http://www.mst-software.co.uk/portal...=222&Itemid=97

    Thanks

    Kevin

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    Re: Disabling internet in one room.

    Sorry if this has been suggested before but its a fun product.

    The new version of Browsecontrol can be setup using a server / client system now so you can have multiple consoles controlling different rooms. It also has application blocking built in and is a piece of cake to use, even for teachers.

    It only cost a couple of hundred quid for us as I only got 100 licenses.

    Well worth the £££ if you can afford it.

    Ohh and its not a M$ subscription based fee either, you pay once and thats it.

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    Re: Disabling internet in one room.

    Browse control 2 from codework free useable download 30 day trial £400 for 175 users. We use it to give classroom teachers control of their own group of PCs, you can black list, white list, control applicatioins, shut of one machine or the whole class group, I use it alongside Dameware to keep an eye on pupils and their 'activities' but can also use it for teaching, (OOps let that one slip a traitor in the camp)

    Yes these are classroom management issues but technical help is a tool for management as well as teaching.

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    Re: Disabling internet in one room.

    We got bollocked for using Dameware by the NGFL..."not authorised software". Sod 'em-they use RAdmin, and that does an OK job. If you are using RAdmin though-download the latest V3 viewer. It's much better.

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    Nothing wrong with Dameware. Hell our LEA use it for remote access too.

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    Re: Disabling internet in one room.

    Quote Originally Posted by Simcfc73
    Sorry if this has been suggested before but its a fun product.

    The new version of Browsecontrol can be setup using a server / client system now so you can have multiple consoles controlling different rooms. It also has application blocking built in and is a piece of cake to use, even for teachers.

    It only cost a couple of hundred quid for us as I only got 100 licenses.

    Well worth the £££ if you can afford it.

    Ohh and its not a M$ subscription based fee either, you pay once and thats it.
    Did I call it fun.??????? Man I must have been tired.

    I have Tightvnc running in view only mode for the teachers using a intranet page with a map of the classroom. When they click the pc it opens up a vnc viewer in a 50% window allowing them to see what the little brats are doing. I don't like allowing them to interact which some would like but they should be telling the kids not to do it. From a technicians point of view I use RDP which is superb. The remote desktop part of 2003 server is usefuel too, allowing you to view several at once (which I use for my servers).

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