The move form CC3 to CC4 should be seen as on the same scale as migrating to a vanilla network. It also has similar cost implications.
Work wise maybe but certainly not cost, if you have CC3 you alreday have all the miscrosft CALS and server liecnecing without having to stump up an extra £ for the CC4 licening for stations servers and what not which is far from cheap. You can also ditch all the RM service contracts which saves if you so wished.
I would do the same with CC4 too if thatv was the way I was going.
webman (19th March 2009)
At least that gives times to recreate packages and do test runs before rolling it out site wide and if the CC3 decides to stop working the CC4 server will at least be on site.
This is how we went over from CC3 to the LEA. The LEA put in a server and took over the AD copies, usernames/passwords etc.
We then worked on two machines and the server for 3/4 weeks making sure everything was how we wanted it in school. Once that was done we started planning for the changeover. Everythign was in place... MSIs, software was sorted and cleaned out, printers were organised and scripts written, other scripts were written.
We then set upon a 3 week transition period where the CC3 servers were kept on but nobody could access them. Week 1 was rebuilding the network (we did that in three days) and get all machines onto the network with email/internet access - and with a standard set of software tools (plus any other software they needed).
Week 2 was printers and making sure software was in the correct departments and mopping up any issues.
Week 3 - was not needed.
Just the school server is showing its age and its filling up fast so the server does need replacing, the alternative is just get another CC3 server, at least that cuts all the licencing costs!
We are giving RM the chance as we have their network now, although they won't get away with a light chat - it starts in 50mins, I'll update if they say anything that I need additional advice for.t
The vanilla LEA one is the other alternative, but they use Ghost and everything and I manage one of them in another school and its not all that despite their talk.
Would be easier just to do a plain startup from scratch but as I don't spend much time on the site it would be months and months before it was even ready so that's not an option.
magicpatch (24th March 2009)
So really, I should hear them out, fire them questions about it being terribly resource heavy and buggy and then say thanks, nice(?) ideas, terrible implementation but we might go elsewhere
I have never understood why schools use RM systems and following this and other threads describing the trials and disasters that you have suffered I am at a complete loss to see why anyone uses them at all. Installing and setting up a new curriculum network is a fairly simple process (don't all shout at me at once, i have installed over 16 curriculum systems in the last 3 years) the last one was in the February half term 2009. I replaced a clapped out RM school share system with a new windows 2003 active directory server running ranger. the system consisted of a dell t3500 quad xeon terabyte server, 32 levono r400 laptops, 6 wireless N wifi access points, 5 24 port gigabyte network switches, followme network printing ( so easy to do just 2 lines of text in the login script and location variable set on the pc or laptop, no need for pages visual basic. if you want details please drop me a line) migrated all the pupil and staff data. all done in 5 days by myself and 1 colleague for a total cost of £23,000 which included the cost of all equipment and software licences and installation charges. job done and all workin perfectly for return to school on monday morning
Oops_my_bad (29th March 2009)
the dell t3500 server comes with a 400 gb backup tape drive and was supplied with 5 backup tapes and cleaning tape. the backup programme used was the built in backup option in windows server 2003 and RANGER is supplied by SENTINEL PRODUCTS and can be viewed at Sentinel Products Designed for Education | Home it is NOT a RM product
Whatever, but last time I looked Sentinel Products was a subsidiary of RM and had been one for years.
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