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Network and Classroom Management Thread, Blocking Youtube in Technical; I'd like to have it unblocked here, but its the LA that blocks it for us....
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    I'd like to have it unblocked here, but its the LA that blocks it for us.

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    Which LA are you with? Here we can add and remove URLs to our own scheel specific lists, or for things such as proxies have them re-categorised.

    If I want things blocking just for students that's pretty much all I use ISA for now!

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    We block youtube, but the little blighters are finding video sites all the time. It really is a cat and mouse game!!

    The site I hate is dot.tk

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    ooo, didnt have that one blocked. Cheers!

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    We do the same as you here. Staff have access, students do not. If staff want students to view a video in there own time the can embed it in a page on our moodle vle. We have had requests for student to be able to search YouTube in a particular lesson. In this case we ask the member of staff to give us a list of student numbers and we will allow that group access for that lesson only.

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    Its blocked for staffs and students. even private mails are blocked too( yahoo, msn etc)

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    I was forced to unblock it for staff here by SMT, but not students.

    Now they can't teach without it!

    Despite the logs showing that 99% of the usage is music videos, football and 'funny' clips.

    The future of teaching is youtube....

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    There is no point in blocking anything at schools!!! Its an unbeatble battle i myself am a student at 6th form and have done large amounts of research into getting past blocking systems. For example Proxy sites render the majority of blocks useless anyway. Yes you can block them but if your Students are intelligen then they just add there emails to a mail list such as peacefire that emails a new set of proxy's every day.

    Keyword filters are also rendered useless by proxys such as written by several of my friends that swap out keywords for images server side before pushing the page to the client. THese systems simply cant be defeated so is it really worth trying?

    THere is the argument that even if a patient is dying they shouldnt be abandoned and refused help yet us as students have access to these things at home and will always find ways around blocks at school. As blocking systems become more complicated so do the methods used to circumvent them!

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    I just block flash and whitelist sites that need it. This will stop most games sites and videos etc. It's less hassle than it sounds.

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    Have a look at Scholar Experience

    login with username: student password: random1.

    I suggest only using the yellow IE bar on an isolated machine though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrforgetful View Post
    Have a look at Scholar Experience

    login with username: student password: random1.

    I suggest only using the yellow IE bar on an isolated machine though.
    Blocked here! Proxy signature blocking prevents you accessing the proxy at all.
    And really... we *will* win.

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    Block the proxys then we use programs such as log me in ect and jsut use the internet explorer window to remote control our home machines. There are an unlimited number of DNS's we can use, there are a larger number of us, and we do it for free. So students will always have the upper hand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aTEK View Post
    There is no point in blocking anything at schools!!! Its an unbeatble battle i myself am a student at 6th form and have done large amounts of research into getting past blocking systems. For example Proxy sites render the majority of blocks useless anyway. Yes you can block them but if your Students are intelligen then they just add there emails to a mail list such as peacefire that emails a new set of proxy's every day.

    Keyword filters are also rendered useless by proxys such as written by several of my friends that swap out keywords for images server side before pushing the page to the client. THese systems simply cant be defeated so is it really worth trying?

    THere is the argument that even if a patient is dying they shouldnt be abandoned and refused help yet us as students have access to these things at home and will always find ways around blocks at school. As blocking systems become more complicated so do the methods used to circumvent them!
    Prehaps not such an issue in colleges, but in schools (and especially primary schools) we as staff have a duty of care. Meaning we must ensure they are not put into danger. Sure they wont get shot by browsing porn on the internet. But it sure isnt suitable.

    We dont block sites for the fun of it. We block sites to keep the students safe. The internet is like the wild west. Anything goes.

    For example; Jimmy Bloggs goes on Facebook/MySpace/Bebo (delete as appropriate) during lunch. Thinks he's chatting with his "friend" Billy. Arranges to meet up with billy after school. Next thing we know, Jimmy is on the news, he's missing...

    Sure this could all happen by other means, but if we dont start somewhere then we'll have no chance of protecting the students.

    As for games, have you ever tried to teach a class of 30 students, keep them on topic with the likes of miniclip.com and youtube.com being unblocked? Impossible in the best schools.

    I can see your point, when I was a student I shared the same point of view. But as responsible adults and members of staff responsible for other people's children we have a moral and legal responsibility to ensure we do not put them or allow them to get themselves into danger.

    Oh, as for the whole "you'll never block every way" thing... sure we wont. But as long as we log what you go on and the rules say you shouldnt be using proxies, then your still in the wrong. No matter how "legit" your reasons are.

    (Welcome to the board BTW)

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    Quote Originally Posted by aTEK View Post
    Block the proxys then we use programs such as log me in ect and jsut use the internet explorer window to remote control our home machines. There are an unlimited number of DNS's we can use, there are a larger number of us, and we do it for free. So students will always have the upper hand.
    On our network anyway;
    • EXE's are blocked unless we allow them... logmein... i think not.
    • All workstations have no rule out. Meaning you HAVE to go through our proxy
    • Users cant change networking settings
    • Like I said before... sure you think you have the upper hand... but we have logs, and detention slips

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    Quote Originally Posted by aTEK View Post
    Block the proxys then we use programs such as log me in ect and jsut use the internet explorer window to remote control our home machines. There are an unlimited number of DNS's we can use, there are a larger number of us, and we do it for free. So students will always have the upper hand.
    Thats a pretty silly attitude. You may get around restrictions in some schools but remember you can also be expelled for breaching their rua's for example. Even though you can beat certain filters potentially you still are not necessarily going to get away with it. I would seriously think about your future in IT if you see the computing industry in this way as it is definitely the wrong attitude. Why pupils try so hard is beyond me, its such a stupid thing to do and if we here were to catch you, you would lose internet access if not more. Dont you all just have mobiles that can do this anyway?!

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