Network and Classroom Management Thread, Changing users home directory in CC3 to a SAN on a mac server! in Technical; Hi All,
We had a mac suite, complete with Xserve and a 4TB SAN attached, over the summer and nobody ...
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11th September 2008, 10:24 AM #1 Changing users home directory in CC3 to a SAN on a mac server!
Hi All,
We had a mac suite, complete with Xserve and a 4TB SAN attached, over the summer and nobody quite knows what to do with it.
BUT I have an idea!
That lovely big SAN, with robotic backup, could house my users home directories as we are running out of space on our CC3 server.
The problem I have is that when I change their home folder in active directory they still get their old folder. When I then do a health check from the management folder CC3 puts their old folder back as their home folder!
Am I missing something or does CC3 not like this?
Thanks
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11th September 2008, 10:28 AM #2 
Originally Posted by
reggiep
We had a mac suite, complete with Xserve and a 4TB SAN attached, over the summer and nobody quite knows what to do with it.
Why get one if, at the time of purchase, you don't know what to do with it?
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11th September 2008, 10:33 AM #3 I'll have it
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11th September 2008, 10:40 AM #4 
Originally Posted by
webman
Why get one if, at the time of purchase, you don't know what to do with it?

Do you think it was my idea? I'm only the network manager! SMT liked the idea so we have one.
It is sat there looking shiny with nobody knowing what to do with it!
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11th September 2008, 10:43 AM #5 
Originally Posted by
reggiep
Do you think it was my idea? I'm only the network manager!
SMT liked the idea so we have one.
It is sat there looking shiny with nobody knowing what to do with it!
Lol, wonderful! So nice to have such technically-knowledgable SMT! Ask them what they plan to do with it 
If it's a "proper" SAN you shouldn't have to re-mapping shared folders to it; rather use the SAN connections (iSCSI?), allocating space, and mounting them as drives on the server.
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11th September 2008, 12:09 PM #6 Having never touched cc3 (obligatory eeeew), does it see it as a member server providing samba shares? i.e does a net use j: \\xservername\share /user:domain\username /persistent:no map a drive correctly?
But yeah - nfs or iscsi would be better, but I've never really poked around with an xserve. Use it for ESXi?
Just a hint, if you're questioning your smt's ability to ability to organise a vertical urination in a brewery, you may want to nix that url in your sig.
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11th September 2008, 12:15 PM #7 You'll need to specify the home directories within the RMMC. Although you're right that AD is running in the background, I wouldn't recommend you make changes from here.
When bulk creating users on RM CC3 (using a CSV file) you can specify the home drive and also the profile path, which you could also move.
I would recommend you keep the same directory structure, so all you need to change is the servername.
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11th September 2008, 12:36 PM #8 Seem to think CC3 must have it's home directories on a CC3 server... could be wrong, just seem to remember reading it somewhere!
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11th September 2008, 12:47 PM #9 We have a similar-ish setup.
In the summer we got an IBM fibre channel SAN that is connected to linux servers (pretty similar to your mac server from a file-serving point of view). We setup samba so that shares are created as soon as the user logs in. We then just pointed the students homedrive in AD - users and computers to 'map' H: to \\newserver\username
as soon as the user connects s/he gets a homedrive with emailed quota's, veto'd files, recycle-bin. I posted the samba config here:quota managment
btw check this out:
Code:
hdparm -t /dev/sdc
/dev/sdc:
Timing buffered disk reads: 834 MB in 3.00 seconds = 277.99 MB/sec
/showoff
of course, we're using this for virtualisation too, not just a fileserver.
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11th September 2008, 01:02 PM #10 
Originally Posted by
CyberNerd
We have a similar-ish setup.
In the summer we got an IBM fibre channel SAN that is connected to linux servers (pretty similar to your mac server from a file-serving point of view). We setup samba so that shares are created as soon as the user logs in. We then just pointed the students homedrive in AD - users and computers to 'map' H: to \\newserver\username
as soon as the user connects s/he gets a homedrive with emailed quota's, veto'd files, recycle-bin. I posted the samba config here:
quota managment
btw check this out:
Code:
hdparm -t /dev/sdc
/dev/sdc:
Timing buffered disk reads: 834 MB in 3.00 seconds = 277.99 MB/sec
/showoff
of course, we're using this for virtualisation too, not just a fileserver.
I don't know i still can't justify FC for schools use, i think iscsi aggregated connections is more than enough.
Ash.
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11th September 2008, 01:07 PM #11 
Originally Posted by
ashok
I don't know i still can't justify FC for schools use, i think iscsi aggregated connections is more than enough.
Ash.
spend less on MS licensing and you'll be able to justify it.
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Thanks to CyberNerd from:
webman (11th September 2008)
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11th September 2008, 01:23 PM #12 
Originally Posted by
CyberNerd
We have a similar-ish setup.
In the summer we got an IBM fibre channel SAN that is connected to linux servers (pretty similar to your mac server from a file-serving point of view). We setup samba so that shares are created as soon as the user logs in. We then just pointed the students homedrive in AD - users and computers to 'map' H: to \\newserver\username
as soon as the user connects s/he gets a homedrive with emailed quota's, veto'd files, recycle-bin. I posted the samba config here:
quota managment
btw check this out:
Code:
hdparm -t /dev/sdc
/dev/sdc:
Timing buffered disk reads: 834 MB in 3.00 seconds = 277.99 MB/sec
/showoff
of course, we're using this for virtualisation too, not just a fileserver.
Run iometer on it, with 100% random. Also use something thats bigger than will fit in the san's cache memory.
But yes, fibre is good.
I have iscsi *and* fibre SANs now
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11th September 2008, 01:25 PM #13 I do hope it's a real san and not a direct attached storage array.
OS X cannot be trusted to share files reliably.
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11th September 2008, 07:20 PM #14 
Originally Posted by
CyberNerd
spend less on MS licensing and you'll be able to justify it.
No need to do that as i said iscsi is enough so don't need to spend it on that, rather spend the cash on more stations/printers etc not neccesarily on MS licensing.
Ash.
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6th October 2008, 12:37 PM #15 Sorry to bring this thread back to life but I never managed to map the users areas to another server via CC3.
In the console the profile location and home directory are non editable. If I edit the folders in active directory/ users and computers it still doesn't work. If however I create a user in active directory and then point that user to a different server and log in on a non CC3 machine on domain it works fine!
Any ideas!
Thanks
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