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    Forensic Software or School Guardian which one

    Forensic Software or School Guardian which one would is better for web filtering and which one would you use to filter your internet

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    We use Secure Computing SmartFilter which has recently gained Becta accreditation - a verygood product. We purchased it from Brightfilter - Delivering online protection for Enterprise, LEAs, Business, Education and the Home. I understand they supply it to some LEAs for RBCs. Support is first rate and the response filter list changes are very fast. Well worth a look.

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    School Guardian is BECTA accredited is the other one?

    Ben

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    Quote Originally Posted by plexer View Post
    School Guardian is BECTA accredited is the other one?

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    So is RM and elonex BECTA accredited ...

    Forenesic OSftware looks vey good as is handles cyber bullying as well ?

    Forensic Software Limited

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    We use Forensic and are reasonably happy with it

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    School Guardian is an edge device filtering all outbound web traffic, policy central is a client based monitoring and compliance product.

    You can't really compare the 2.

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    Another +1 for forensic software.

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    We have 3 tier filtering (5 if you include the firewalls).

    We have the RBC firewall, followed by RBC NetSweeper (transparent proxy used for general clearing out rubbish), then our internal firewall (seriously locking out who can and can't try to access anything other than by our prescribed routes) which also does our NAT, then we have Smoothwall and we are now implementing Securus for client level.

    Other than some anonymisers (mainly due to being 2 version behind on smoothwall) we don't have any issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrumbleDook View Post
    We have 3 tier filtering (5 if you include the firewalls).

    We have the RBC firewall, followed by RBC NetSweeper (transparent proxy used for general clearing out rubbish), then our internal firewall (seriously locking out who can and can't try to access anything other than by our prescribed routes) which also does our NAT, then we have Smoothwall and we are now implementing Securus for client level.

    Other than some anonymisers (mainly due to being 2 version behind on smoothwall) we don't have any issues.
    The issue is anonymisers.... I really need to get those blocked and I need to make a case for smooth wall (Web filtering not Proxy) against Forensic..

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrumbleDook View Post
    We have 3 tier filtering (5 if you include the firewalls).

    We have the RBC firewall, followed by RBC NetSweeper (transparent proxy used for general clearing out rubbish), then our internal firewall (seriously locking out who can and can't try to access anything other than by our prescribed routes) which also does our NAT, then we have Smoothwall and we are now implementing Securus for client level.
    How do you have the time to look through the logs though? Especially with Securus we would need a full time techie to look through all the violations.

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    The latest version of school/network guardian is your best bet I think ... even with our version being 2 versions behind it catches more than NetSweeper does.

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    OK, i'll start by saying i'm a bit* biased, so take my advice as you will

    If it was a "Pick one" scenario, i'd take the SmoothWall, simply because as an edge device it will do a better job of web filtering. If it was a "I have real deep pockets" job, I would definitely go for both as the client-side screen-scrapey things can be useful for non-web stuff like catching flash games off USB sticks.

    In terms of cyber-bullying - we already have some instant messenger control and logging, and we're expanding to log forum/youtube posts as well. Youtube videos are also logged by popularity, which can spot inappropriate additions quickly.

    Anyway, if you need to know anything in particular about SmoothWall, please do give me a ring.

    *less than you might think, actually.

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    Is Forensic Teksys ?

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    No - Policy Central Enterprise

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    I've not experience of forensic, but my dealings with school guardian in a school enviroment have always been very very good.

    anonymous proxies are pretty much wiped out by it

    plus, you can't argue with the price.....



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