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    How to get more IP's

    I’m an Administrator in a small district with nobody to discus tech questions, and stumbling onto your Forum/Site has been a godsend. Thanks for being here!

    Ok, the question.

    We run all Windows 2003 and XP pro machines.
    Currently our ip range is 10.1.1.1 – 10.1.1.254, but would like to go to the High School machines and make them static to 10.1.2.1 – 10.1.2.254.
    Where would I go to make these IPs work on the network? In DNS I’ve added a new Subnet for 10.1.2.0 – 10.1.2.254 in the reverse Lookup, but that didn’t work.
    Any help would be excellent.

    Thanks.

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    Re: How to get more IP's

    why are you making them static and not using DHCP in sevrer 2003 to give the addresses to the clients

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    Re: How to get more IP's

    You will need to edit the network settings manually on each machine and give them new IP addresses.

    You should undo the changes you made in DNS... this is wrong.

    You will also need to make sure you get the subnet mask right (255.255.254.0 should do although I'm no expert here).

    You may find that some kind of script would be helpful if you have all those computers to sort.

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    Re: How to get more IP's

    I'm using DHCP for other machines, but my firewall only lists IPs, not computers, and for easy reading I wouldnt mind knowing what machine is located where.

    If my DHCP scope is from 10.1.1.1 to 10.1.20.254, shouldn't i be able to set a client with a static Ip of 10.1.x.x manually and it should work as well as a static IP of 10.1.1.x ? For some reason it's not, and I cant figure out why.

    To ensure that the subnet isn't an issue, it is 255.255.0.0 (unless this is the cause.)

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    Re: How to get more IP's

    what OS are you using for DHCP?

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    Re: How to get more IP's

    Quote Originally Posted by FN-Greatermanchester
    what OS are you using for DHCP?
    Windows Server 2003 , all machines are XP pro

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    Re: How to get more IP's

    ok in the DCHP there is something what you can set static ip addresses to computers it works using the computers mac address

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    Re: How to get more IP's

    The subnet is ok, why not just keep the scope and make the address lease unlimited ?

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    Re: How to get more IP's

    Try making use of address reservations on the DHCP server. Means you can centralise it and not have to go to each machine, but each will have a static address.

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    Re: How to get more IP's

    You can set up reservations in DHCP so that each mac address always gets a particular ip but, if you're doing that for your entire network, I don't see the point of using DHCP as it's not exactly being 'dynamic' is it?

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    Re: How to get more IP's

    The point would be that should you need to change the address or range or anything, you can just do it on the server rather than wandering round to x number of computers.

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    Re: How to get more IP's

    The problem I'm encountering is, Dynamic or not, I'm stuck with less than 250 cleint machines.

    Any Ideas where I can look to broaden my range? I'm pretty sure my scope is fine.


    Hope this helps some. Let me know if there is anything else that may help and I'll post a shot also.



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    Re: How to get more IP's

    Well for a start you're using a class A IP address. So your subnet mask would be something along the lines of 255.0.0.0 (unless it's been subnetted up a bit).

    Class A allows you to have a hell of a lot more than 250 hosts talking to each other than just your standard class C 255.255.255.0 mask with 254 hosts

    The network ID is only using the first octet under class A so the remaining three octets are used for the host IDs.....so that's a hell of a lot of ip addresses........

    Check to see what your subnet mask is.

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    Re: How to get more IP's

    Thanks for the help.

    255.255.0.0 is our subnet.

    So if I wanted the range of 10.1.1.1 to 10.1.254.254, my subnet should be 255.0.0.0 ?

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    Re: How to get more IP's

    As far as i understand it, if you've got a 10.0.0.0 class A network your subnet mask should be 255.0.0.0.

    255.255.0.0 is for a class B network (172.something.0.0). But if you're 10.1 part of your IP address is staying the same i doubt this is going to have much effect. Try it though!

    Can someone confirm that for me so i'm not ill-advising jmair there please?

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