Network and Classroom Management Thread, CC4 borked? in Technical; Hi guys and gals,
Since mid December our CC4 install seems to slowly degraded to a point now where we ...
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15th January 2013, 09:53 AM #1 CC4 borked?
Hi guys and gals,
Since mid December our CC4 install seems to slowly degraded to a point now where we cannot build machines keeps failing at (installing additional packages), my connect is now showing the majority of users as unknown and its currently taking users around 5-7 mins to log in.
Christmas eve, the power was shutdown for electrical work (which we were not privvy to the info), it was an SMS that alerted me from people trying to remote in. The 27th I came in to restart the servers and they shut down almost instantaniously due to the sockets that the UPS where plugged into tripped when the power was restored on Christmas eve!
3rd line and RM have been looking at this for a week and we are still no further forward.
Anyone else suffer from this over sensitivity with CC4?
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15th January 2013, 10:17 AM #2 
Originally Posted by
andyturpie
Since mid December our CC4 install seems to slowly degraded to a point now where we cannot build machines keeps failing at (installing additional packages), my connect is now showing the majority of users as unknown and its currently taking users around 5-7 mins to log in.
I HAD THIS EXACT SAME PROBLEM!!
IIRC, it was something to do with the system account [It has a seemingly random name] being deleted or corrupt.
If you go into RMMC, can you open the general registry settings or user properties for a specific account?
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Thanks to X-13 from:
andyturpie (15th January 2013)
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15th January 2013, 10:21 AM #3 LOG A CALL WITH RM!!
They are there to help you, log it, and escalate it if you need to.
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2 Thanks to rad:
andyturpie (15th January 2013)
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15th January 2013, 10:23 AM #4 
Originally Posted by
rad
LOG A CALL WITH RM!!
They are there to help you, log it, and escalate it if you need to.
From the sounds of it, he has.
This looks like Andy is just asking to see if anyone knows what it is.
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Thanks to X-13 from:
andyturpie (15th January 2013)
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15th January 2013, 10:42 AM #5 
Originally Posted by
X-13
I HAD THIS EXACT SAME PROBLEM!!
IIRC, it was something to do with the system account [It has a seemingly random name] being deleted or corrupt.
If you go into RMMC, can you open the general registry settings or user properties for a specific account?
Will check this out, did you find that all these issues resolved themselves once this was done?
With the slow log ins and slow mapped drive delivery, I have checked switches and they seem okay, yesterday I isolated the servers from the core switch to an edge switch and patched in a laptop, the build still failed?
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15th January 2013, 10:47 AM #6 
Originally Posted by
rad
LOG A CALL WITH RM!!
They are there to help you, log it, and escalate it if you need to.
Hi Rad, already had RM in for a remote session, they split my call up into so many segments, with the issues vaguely overlapping and we seem to be heading in circles.
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15th January 2013, 10:51 AM #7 
Originally Posted by
andyturpie
Will check this out, did you find that all these issues resolved themselves once this was done?
With the slow log ins and slow mapped drive delivery, I have checked switches and they seem okay, yesterday I isolated the servers from the core switch to an edge switch and patched in a laptop, the build still failed?
Yup. Almost instantly.
IIRC that's the account used to install software.
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Thanks to X-13 from:
andyturpie (15th January 2013)
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15th January 2013, 12:26 PM #8 Sounds a lot like the issues we had last September, that turned out to be a borked core switch. Replaced that and since then builds have been fine.
Are you fully up to date with updates? Have a look at DWN2970239 and TEC1622957
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Thanks to Danp from:
andyturpie (15th January 2013)
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15th January 2013, 12:33 PM #9 We've had similar issues with our CC3 network. that turned out (as it so often is) to be a conspiracy of problems... a corrupt system account, inconsistent permissions on build areas and one of two trunked fibre lines between our core switch and the rest of the network that had a nicked jacket and was unstable.
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15th January 2013, 12:40 PM #10
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15th January 2013, 01:04 PM #11 
Originally Posted by
rad
My bad and apologies,
He he no need for apologies
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15th January 2013, 07:34 PM #12 Cannot build machines keeps failing at (installing additional packages)
We had this exact issue just before christmas but none of the other issues you mention - ours had something to do with a corrupt password on the system account connected to the DB. RM 3rd line support dialled in and resolved the issue after a couple of days tinkering and going round in circles with the 1st line support team.
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Thanks to Sylv3r from:
andyturpie (16th January 2013)
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16th January 2013, 03:13 PM #13
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We have a batch file that stops RM Service host, clears out the cache files, then starts it again. We have to run this everytime we get a powercut, and also with the odd quirk when it happens. Won't fix your issue, sounds like something much nastier, but RM Service Host isn't very resilient and I resent that I have to run this batch file each time when a vanilla network would just work. I'm sure 3rd line will get to the bottom of your issue.
We have multiple DC's but if Service Host fails network is knackered. There is still no redundancy in CC4 which is just silly.
Something we've also noticed is the RM Database grows over time and RMMC starts to slow (several updates addressed this but it still happens.) RM will dial in and tidy the database, this does help for a couple of years then it happens again.
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Thanks to d-taylor from:
andyturpie (16th January 2013)
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17th January 2013, 02:54 PM #14 Hi Guys,
Just like to say that RM have been absolutely brilliant and have managed to get to the bottom of the issue which was rectified in a timely and professional manner. I know that there are purists on here which don't hold RM or products in good light, but I think credit where credit is due!
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17th January 2013, 02:58 PM #15
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Below is the batch file for the FRDC on Server 2008 R2. Running this can solve many CC4 oddities that crop up:
@echo off
rem ********************************
rem Restarts service host and deletes cache
rem **********************************
@echo on
net stop /yes "RM service Host" @echo Waiting for RM service Host To Stop
:loop6 @Rem Wait for 30 seconds
@PING 1.1.1.1 -n 1 -w 30000 >NUL @echo Checking Service State
@sc query "RM service Host" | @FIND "1 STOPPED"
@If %ERRORLEVEL% NEQ 0 goto loop6 @echo Confirmed: RM service Host Service Stopped
@echo Clearing service host cache @Rem Wait for 30 seconds
RD /Q /S "C:\Program Files (x86)\RM\Connect\Comms\HostedProxies"
RD /Q /S "C:\Program Files (x86)\RM\Connect\Comms\RemotingHost"
del /Q /F "C:\ProgramData\RM\Connect\Comms\*.rmcache"
del /Q /F "C:\ProgramData\RM\Connect\Comms\*.cache"
del /Q /F "C:\Users\All Users\Application Data\RM\Networks\RMMC\CacheManager\*.rmcache"
net start /yes "RM service Host" @echo Waiting for RM service Host To Start
:loop7 @Rem Wait for 30 seconds
@PING 1.1.1.1 -n 1 -w 30000 >NUL @echo Checking Service State
@sc query "RM service Host" | @FIND "4 RUNNING"
@If %ERRORLEVEL% NEQ 0 goto loop7 @echo Confirmed: RM service Host Started
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Thanks to d-taylor from:
andyturpie (17th January 2013)
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