Network and Classroom Management Thread, RM CC3 Package Tool in Technical; Hi guys. I am in the process of working on a tool to aid with package management on a CC3 ...
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13th August 2007, 02:15 PM #1
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13th August 2007, 03:12 PM #2 Re: RM CC3 Package Tool
That looks quite useful, thanks... would definitely be interested in a released version
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13th August 2007, 03:24 PM #3
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Well i wrote it because i was having issues where i would deploy a package to the site or even a room and it would only install on 80% of the machines. All the managment console lets you do is re-allocate and that installs on all the machines again, so with this tool it only re-tries the machines that have failed.
Another use was when i sent out the new Acrobat Reader package, the old one didn't uninstall. However the new one had installed so i used this tool to remove the old information from the workstations. This is so you don't end up with a huge list of uninstall failed for things that have in effect worked. The same with flash, the old one didn't uninstall but the new one upgrades the old one and as long as that worked i don't need to know about uninstall failed for the old package.
Anyway i am still tweaking it a little but i should be able to upload a test version later this week if you want a look. It has really saved me a load of time today sorting out old package removal and getting some machines up to date with the current packages.
At the moment it doesn't work by room, that is something i think would be really useful to get in there and i will be looking at that tomorrow.
Thanks for you interest
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13th August 2007, 03:54 PM #4 Re: RM CC3 Package Tool
There's a couple of utilities that have some of that functionality for CC3 - listed in this recent thread, but your app does look promising.
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13th August 2007, 04:22 PM #5
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13th August 2007, 04:26 PM #6 Re: RM CC3 Package Tool
I hope you mean a a system administrator user - and not just hardcoded to the systemadmin username
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13th August 2007, 04:42 PM #7
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Well i was going to hard code it to the user name but you are right i need to do it to a user type. I also ned to add a small ini file so you can configure the path to your RMPackages folder.
I am just working on the wake on lan code right now. I will get the ini file stuff done to, i actually never thought about that. DOH!
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13th August 2007, 05:04 PM #8 Re: RM CC3 Package Tool
Sounds good 
There's myself and the Network Manager here who both deal with all aspects of the network; and we use different logon accounts. I remember some functionality within the Win32 API to see if they are an 'administrator' usertype, but this might be different to the group-based membership of an AD network though and you will probably have some method of identifying that
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13th August 2007, 05:07 PM #9 Re: RM CC3 Package Tool
You could just rely on packagecontrol's NTFS permissions. Just get your app to check whether the user has permission to write to the folder. I believe the management types which can modify package allocation are sysadmins, network, and possibly authorised.
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13th August 2007, 06:04 PM #10
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Well now i see why lanview 3 went with the client server option. If i try and re-boot the workstation using the API call it will appear to hang for several seconds if the machine doesn't respond to the call. This might be because the PC is off or doing something else. I added code to only attempt a re-boot if the machine was actually switched on but it will still hang if the machine doesn't respond to the call due it being busy doing something else.
I have spent an hour trying to resolve this but i haven't really gotten anywhere. Looks like the re-boot automatically option and the Wake On Lan will involve a little more coding that i thought so i might make the release without the wake on lan and with the auto-reboot disabled. You can still re-boot machines manually by selecting from the treeview.
I will add a basic ini file so you can specify a path to your RMPackages folder and post it up. Then while i am trying to get the re-boot ad wake on lan stuff sorted i can at least get some feedback.
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13th August 2007, 06:12 PM #11
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13th August 2007, 06:48 PM #12 Re: RM CC3 Package Tool
Well now i see why lanview 3 went with the client server option.
Exactly - Windows has always had appalling network RPC support. Even WMI is unbelievably slow.
Thats why LanView2 started using the client/server model and I didn't even look at using Windows native network RPC for LV3 when I started it.
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13th August 2007, 09:57 PM #13
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very interested in seeing the out come of this, please keep us posted
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14th August 2007, 08:01 PM #14 Re: RM CC3 Package Tool
Will try it tomorrow very good for the update season. Why RM could not have done this I wonder. The market seem to be solving the problems what about a open source CC4 now that would be good.
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15th August 2007, 12:28 PM #15
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To be honest i have been so busy using it, i havn't really added anything. I do have a list of machines that are currently on the network displayed to cross reference when re-booting i think i need to add icons to the treeview to show if the machine is online or not. Also i don't need to add machines to the treeview that don't have any issues.
These are the next things i will work on.
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