Its nice to know that no-one will need to do any indepth and long winded work in the future, are we outsourcing it all to china. All that precision and dealing with large datasets is far too difficult and should be left to those people in other countries do all that low level grunt work of thinking, making decisions and processing information.
From another angle most members here hate having to support trolleys of wireless laptops and complain about having issues with slow logging on to the domain over wireless etc. and wanting to ban them and use desktops. So how are tablets that do the same going to be any better?
This is the reason I have been refusing I-pads / Androids in my schools and waiting for a viable MS alternative. I look after some primary schools, we already have a MS server with AD and GPO and all the curric software runs on windows. I do not want to add other control systems or software that will only run on I-pads or Androids and double up on my work load. I agree that if Apple had got in to my schools before MS then it might be a different scenario, with everything being Apple I would not want to change to MS, but MS got in first.
Another thing to note is the fact that Windows 8 will also run on desktops, which gives me 1 OS to look after.
Windows 8 will be an utter failure. You just have to see the interface and confused desktop behind it to understand why. Microsoft will get there eventually though, I just don't think windows 8 will be it.
I am sure that others could throw it back at you and so that you have been listening to the Apple Haters too much.
Please ... try to be prepared to accept that some people have a good experience and it works for them fine, in the same way that others need to be willing to accept that it is a difficult and painful experience for some members.
So you do not have any windows computers in your school?Thats the whole point though. You don't need AD any more with Ipads (although saying that our proxy still uses it to track internet usage even on the ipads).
From a primary school angle I only have time to look after 1 type of OS and while we have a need in the office for windows computers and then a need for AD I will not be adding other systems.
Also ... moving to W8 is still going to involve more work than just putting more WinXP / Win7 systems in ... I can remember the interesting fun people had changing profiles, etc when going from W2K systems to Win7 ... and since we have schools going from WinXP to W8 has this been considered? Will it be the same amount of time as introducing / managing iOS / Android, more time or less time?
Remote wipe/restore of RT, easy to program metro apps, proper integration with a currently existing systems and no itunes. I'm looking forward to seeing what we can do with it and feel it has alot of potential.
Last edited by Theblacksheep; 16th July 2012 at 12:07 PM.
We have some IOS devices as well as Android, linux OSX and Windows.
The amount of time they require to look after is grossly overstated. They generally work well with few problems. Its good to have a mixed environment.
We put in systems to manage them. It's often a different system depending upon the device (mac server, google apps, spacewalk or active directory). Ultimately you put in the systems that are needed for the application. I couldn't imagine saying to SLT that we would refuse to install SIMS because we didn't have an SQL server! or that we wouldn't take windows computers because we already have apple.
Active directory is certainly becoming less relevant to this school as the number of devices that it cannot support increases.
Sean-OC04 (3rd August 2012)
So far all you seem to have done is question people's concerns and worries about integrating them into their own specific environments. Hardly any schools will have a 1:1 iPad:student ratio so these things have to be shared. I too have some of these concerns for most of the reasons above.
If you have a working solution for managing them properly and effectively, allowing access to student files and work areas (which is expected by teachers and SLT) and deploying apps easily then please share it with us rather than adopting the rather high and mighty stance that you seem to have taken over this.
I could of course grabbed the wrong end of the stick entirely
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