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    iPads - just. Seeking a walk through on set up

    The Management decided we needed some iPads and they have just landed on my desk. We are a Windows 2008 Standard Domain with a mix of XP Pro and windows 7 Clients with 7 Apple Macs which with much help and guidance from the good folk of Edugeek I have working on the Domain. iPads are a brand new thing to me though so I'm looking for a bit of guidance on best practice for setting them up and using them with our Domain.

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    I would suggest you also go and have a chat with a local ASE as they can help a heck of a lot, put you in touch with other schools using them so the school gets the educational benefits. Have a look at some of my recent blog posts from when I went to the Apple Leadership Event in Birmingham (must remember to get part 2 put up as an article).

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    I'm having great fun *ahem* at the moment asking my LA nicely to see if they can allow me to use https sites...

    I know it means opening ports etc, but its a tad annoying when they are trying to push us to use these things and we cant use them properly for things like google docs etc...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little-Miss View Post
    I'm having great fun *ahem* at the moment asking my LA nicely to see if they can allow me to use https sites...

    I know it means opening ports etc, but its a tad annoying when they are trying to push us to use these things and we cant use them properly for things like google docs etc...
    Does Google Docs work on the iPads now? I didn't think it did, something to do with a strange version of Safari. I'd love to be able to use Pages and then just save to Google Docs/Live@Edu.

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    An iPad is not a mac so it should be in this board - Netbooks, PDA and Phones

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    Yeesh....

    No, i got that https error still, dont even get that far! if i try to load docs.google.com i get There was a problem communicating with the secure web proxy server (HTTPS) blah blah blah...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little-Miss View Post
    Yeesh....

    No, i got that https error still, dont even get that far! if i try to load docs.google.com i get There was a problem communicating with the secure web proxy server (HTTPS) blah blah blah...
    There's two things you need to do. Put in a network change request with Link2ICT, but also on the iPad, I think you need to enable the proxy server twice for both normal and secure traffic.

    There's something on the Cisco gateway they need to enable (I can't for the life remember what it's called). Without this any secure traffic will fail.

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    Cripes - just shows how in the woods I am on these things - I never spotted that thread. I'm very happy for this to be moved there.

    Quote Originally Posted by FN-GM View Post
    An iPad is not a mac so it should be in this board - Netbooks, PDA and Phones

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    Thanks Michael. I presume this would be something needed for SWGfL as well?

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    There's two things you need to do. Put in a network change request with Link2ICT, but also on the iPad, I think you need to enable the proxy server twice for both normal and secure traffic.

    There's something on the Cisco gateway they need to enable (I can't for the life remember what it's called). Without this any secure traffic will fail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by speckytecky View Post
    Cripes - just shows how in the woods I am on these things - I never spotted that thread. I'm very happy for this to be moved there.
    Sorry to go on about it, just makes it easier when you looking for things at a later date

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little-Miss View Post
    Yeesh....

    No, i got that https error still, dont even get that far! if i try to load docs.google.com i get There was a problem communicating with the secure web proxy server (HTTPS) blah blah blah...
    Are you running the iPads through a Guest wireless, a firewall or a transparent proxy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by speckytecky View Post
    The Management decided we needed some iPads and they have just landed on my desk. We are a Windows 2008 Standard Domain with a mix of XP Pro and windows 7 Clients with 7 Apple Macs which with much help and guidance from the good folk of Edugeek I have working on the Domain. iPads are a brand new thing to me though so I'm looking for a bit of guidance on best practice for setting them up and using them with our Domain.
    Are they for staff or student use?

    A good place to start would be with the iPhone Configuration Utility as this allows you to lock down the devices as well as push out settings for Exchange, WiFi, proxy and device restrictions etc it what I used to config settings on our iPads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by speckytecky View Post
    Thanks Michael. I presume this would be something needed for SWGfL as well?
    Possibly, if you have some form of LA managed firewall I would probably say yes.

    Edit: From memory, it's some form of Cisco certificate protocol which needs enabling. I think the iPad retrieves a secure certificate from Apple's servers. The iPads themselves do not host the certificates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamo View Post
    Are you running the iPads through a Guest wireless, a firewall or a transparent proxy?
    Erm, guest wireless (via our managed Ruckus) squid servers, LA Stuff.... not up on the types of proxy but dont think ours is transparent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael View Post
    Possibly, if you have some form of LA managed firewall I would probably say yes.

    Edit: From memory, it's some form of Cisco certificate protocol which needs enabling. I think the iPad retrieves a secure certificate from Apple's servers. The iPads themselves do not host the certificates.
    Yeah its ocspd or something like that, i've requested it but will put the change requests in too..

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