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    Michael what do you mean by setting the proxy twice?

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    In the equivalent Internet Options on a Mac or iPad, you can specify a proxy server for http and https. I 'think' you set it the same for both as normal. Of course with Windows, you only specify proxy settings in one area.

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    By default squid cant proxy https requests (well it can but the HTTPS sites will deny access due to a man in the middle attack!!)

    You need to open the 443 ports on the firewall (usually guest networks have a firewall defined in the settings) and allow that traffic to flow through as it normally would to the upstream proxies (which are usually more able to handle the https traffic).

    I recently had this on a Smoothwall Express box bridging a LAN and our network, without allowing 443 directly through the firewall and into the upstream proxy all HTTPs sites just said that they didn't exist!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael View Post
    In the equivalent Internet Options on a Mac or iPad, you can specify a proxy server for http and https. I 'think' you set it the same for both as normal. Of course with Windows, you only specify proxy settings in one area.
    Hmm. Know how to set the normal proxy. Not sure about the https though...

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    That's Student use. As we are an EBD school that puzzled me straight off!!

    Quote Originally Posted by AngryITGuy View Post
    Are they for staff or student use?

    A good place to start would be with the iPhone Configuration Utility as this allows you to lock down the devices as well as push out settings for Exchange, WiFi, proxy and device restrictions etc it what I used to config settings on our iPads.

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    This is my own iPad, can I use this without locking down
    N?

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    has anyone got an ipad working succesfully behind their LA firewall/Proxy etc...

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    Yeah https and all

    Check your firewall settings and allow 443 traffic through, try connecting your iPad to the standard wireless rather than the guest and see if it works

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    we use certificates and stuff. I noticed there are some certificate settings in that config program, maybe i do it that way?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little-Miss View Post
    Hmm. Know how to set the normal proxy. Not sure about the https though...
    There isn't a seperate section on the iPhone for handling https. You set the normal http one and hope it works, which unfortunately does not work inside the BGFL.

    Quote Originally Posted by Little-Miss View Post
    This is my own iPad, can I use this without locking down ?
    Yes you can. The iPhone configuration utility is only used for configuring multiple iOS devices that need specific policies setting for it. It can set many things, such as WiFi, passcode policies and allowing or denying access to certain applications. A very useful piece of kit for deploying on mass, however I think MDM is much better.

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael View Post
    In the equivalent Internet Options on a Mac or iPad, you can specify a proxy server for http and https. I 'think' you set it the same for both as normal. Of course with Windows, you only specify proxy settings in one area.
    Not true, you only set the proxy in one place.

    I'm hoping that the new proxy system that Link2ICT are implementing will be more flexible for exactly this reason, however how long it is going to take to implement is hard to say. The best I can recommend is to get on to them and see what this weeks official response is.

    Rich

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little-Miss View Post
    we use certificates and stuff. I noticed there are some certificate settings in that config program, maybe i do it that way?
    It depends on what type of authentication you are using. Im guessing its going to be either 'PEAP-MSCHAP' or 'Smart Card or Certificate'. The first one of these you can log on using your username and password normally as a domain user, but the second would require you dealing out a trusted certificate to your iPad which I don't think would be an easy task! Much easier would be to create a test WPA SSID on your wireless APs

    If it works on your PCs there is no reason (in theory) why it shouldn't work with an iPad. I have used a combination of transparent proxies and firewall exception rules (so that port 80 is automatically proxied whereas 443 is just sent out as normal) Another way you can test is try to run Windows update on a normal PC (logged onto the Guest Wireless, making sure that it is accessing the external w update service not an internal WSUS) if it doesn't work (complaining of an unknown error(!?)) then you have a problem with HTTPS traffic being intercepted by a non compatible proxy and that is the part to look at. If Windows update works all ok and you can visit HTTPS sites using a standard Windows PC then it is back to the start and you can ignore my lengthy post

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    Pah. Apparently I can install certificates by just clicking them. I spent the afternoon trying to find the right one lol. Where do they actually live?

    As far as I'm aware all the staff laptops on the guest account work just fine. I am starting to wonder whether it may be a guest thing as my iPhone struggles with some sites too..

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    Sorry speckytechy for taking over your thread!

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    Hey - not a problem. The responses have been hugely useful to me as well. Looks like I need to speak to Net-Ctrl support about securing them via our ruckus.

    Goodish news is these are not for the boys but management!


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    Sorry speckytechy for taking over your thread!

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    Ha! Let me know the response!

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