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    1 to 1 devices - non-Apple?

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    I'm currently putting together a report on our school's options in going down the 1-1 route. (e.g.iPads, netbooks(!), Macs ).

    I was wondering whether anyone is aware of any schools - UK or otherwise - who have gone for non-Apple tablets, on a large(ish) scale (Windows or Android), and to what degree of success.

    Any suggestions gratefully received.

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    1 school near me went down that route (St Christopher's Lower School, Dunstable) and within 6 months most were broken/stolen and had to be either sent back or replaced at a cost. By the end of the 1st year they ended up selling all the devices at a reduced price to the parents and the remaining ones went in school raffles etc. This is going back before tablets were popular and it was a choice between tablets or laptops and they went for tablets.

    They had Windows XP tablets and if it was set up properly it would have worked great, but because they lacked sufficient knowledge things went downhill...fast.

    This was about 4-5 years ago or so

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    Writhlington School (Writhlington School - Business and Enterprise Specialist School) are my previous place of employment. As I left during the BSF process which delivered a 1to1 I can't comment on how it works, but all Students have a Dell Latitude 2100 netbook (1400 of them).

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    There are a number of research papers around this, ranging from the use of PDAs ([ARCHIVED CONTENT] Becta research - Research - Becta research - 1:1 access to mobile learning devices) through to materials from the eLearning Foundation (e-Learning Foundation - Home).

    If you are looking at tablets PCs (i.e. the old style Windows XP Tablets) then you could have a chat with the folk at Djanogly Academy in Nottingham. If you are looking for just general information about 1 to 1 schemes then have a chat with Ninestyles.

    It all depends on whether you are looking for information about whether they are educationally beneficial (generally ... if your curriculum is designed for them, then yes) or about the pros / cons in managing the scheme financially and technically.

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    I know that I want learning - rather than IT - to dictate the device. However, with all the talk of iOS devices I am interested in schools which have gone for non-Apple devices, particularly Android, and what their experiences have been from all perspectives; learning, implementation, management and everything in between. We have used motioncomputing's (Windows) tablets on a small-scale with positive feedback from users (teachers), but I wonder how far such devices will merely allow teachers to stay within their comfort zones (Internet, Office applications) rather than fostering any real creativity or pushing the boundaries - which I feel the iPad lends itself well to.

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    Android devices are more difficult to manage due to the nature of them. You will never be able to lock them down for student use unless the bring out a student edition with a master control device (whereas iOS and Windows devices can be locked down sufficiently through Mac and Windows Server).

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    Part of the decision the school has to make is whether the 1 to 1 scheme is based around the devices being personal devices, with the school having limited control / access and the users having to do most of the work on them (getting apps, managing files, etc) or whether it is just a locked down device that the schools does everything for.

    There are technical issues around both and the choice of device / OS could impact on how you want to make use of them. As others have said previously Android is a pain to manage (even more than iOS) so it almost forces you down the personal route. This then means you have to work out how much time / effort / money /expertise you are going to focus on making sure the wireless network is suitable, segregated from the main school network ... and so then working out where they connect into the network, how they make use of specific tools ... will it by via Remote Desktop Services? Web based solutions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nephilim View Post
    You will never be able to lock them down for student use unless the bring out a student edition with a master control device
    I wouldn't say never. As part of their acquisition of Motorola Mobility, Google also acquired 3LM - a company which sells management tools to do exactly what you describe with Android devices...

    reviews.cnet.com/8301-12261_7-20117918-10356022/android-to-get-enterprise-friendlier/

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    The school district I work for uses the 1:1 model. We have started at the middle school level (I'm in the US) and are currently in 2 grades, going to a third after Christmas.. and then moving into the high schools next year. We are currently at probably 7,000 devices. Once we reach all of high school we'll probably be somewhere around 20-25,000 devices in student hands. Our district currently has 20,000+ computers, but obviously those are not going home with students.

    For the middle school level we have used Dell 2110s and we also have some pilot programs where we use iPads, Android tablets, etc. We will be selecting a different choice for the high schools, I would imagine, because there are certainly some limitations to the netbooks. We have had very few theft issues and very few break issues. All in all, the program has been a massive success here and has really started a massive transformation in how children are learning and the overall technology in our school system.

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