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    I'm holding out until Amazon bring out the Kindle Fire in the UK as it sounds ideal for what i want it for. I'd like an android tablet to play with and for general web browsing on the sofa but dont really want to spend more than £200 as I don't think it's something I'd use all that often.

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    I've hear that the App LeiP Hone is quote good ....

    On a serious note ... from the devices I have looked at the Transformer seems to be the best right now, but for those with a budget the AndyPad Pro seems to be a good choice. Kogan was getting some good news in the summer, but that seems to have gone quiet now ... not sure if anything new will happen there.

    With a budget you might have to accept some limitations. This could be around the OS version you can move to or how much modding you want to do. Also think about the life expectancy ... how much do you think you will need to move to a later build and try to pick a device where you would be happy if, should the worst happen, you cannot upgrade / mod it. Once you make that choice some of the devices already fall by the wayside.

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    @titch that Vega is looking tempting, where did you get the refurb one from?

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    Not overly fussed about a long life expectancy - at £150, I could afford to change it every few years and it still wouldn't cost the same as an iPad or the Asus Transformer.

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    That AndyPro does look well specced for the money, but with that big white bezel, it is far from pretty...

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    Quote Originally Posted by enjay View Post
    @titch that Vega is looking tempting, where did you get the refurb one from?
    refurbished advent vega tablet £129.97 @ ebay (currys_pcworld) - HotUKDeals

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    You got instructions on how to hack that to 3.2?
    What are Advent like for quality? I hear mixed reviews of them...

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    Quote Originally Posted by enjay View Post
    You got instructions on how to hack that to 3.2?
    What are Advent like for quality? I hear mixed reviews of them...
    I would say the quality is good. Looks pretty slick and sturdy. Nice weight. Hardware wise its spot on, compares to all the big names speed wise (except for the new quad cores that are coming out). Dont expect it to feel as slick as ipad or galaxy tab but its defo a step up from the cheapo £100 chinese jobbies that float around. Took me 20 mins to change the rom using these instructions How to install vegacomb 3.2 advent vega - Android @ MoDaCo. So for £130 I have top spec tablet with the latest android software (not including ice cream sandwich). Again my one gripe is the viewing angle of the screen. But I can live with it.

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    Thanks Titch. What is wrong with the viewing angle?

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    Also, does the Advent one have the proper Android marketplace on it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by enjay View Post
    Thanks Titch. What is wrong with the viewing angle?
    Advent put a super cheap Twisted Nematic (TN) LCD in the Vega. These are notorious for their poor viewing angles and bad colour reproduction.

    The Advent Vega takes the same basic form as the iPad, then cheapens it each direction in order to reduce the price tag.

    Where the original has a glass multi-touch IPS screen rich in colour and viewable from any angle, the Advent Vega has a budget plastic TN screen with weak colour when used face on.

    That’s at its best – when tilted by a view degrees as you naturally do when holding it, the screen can fade to black tones and become an unviewable mess. (Source)
    TN = Twisted Nematic
    These are 6-bit screens that cannot really reproduce 16.7 million colors. They can only reproduce 262,144 colors; 64 shades of Red, Green & Blue. Thats (2^6)^3 or 64^3. All the other colors are created through a process called dithering. These typically have fast response times (for gaming) at the expense of color accuracy. (Source)

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    Quote Originally Posted by enjay View Post
    Also, does the Advent one have the proper Android marketplace on it?
    Yep proper marketplace and proper google apps integrated etc. As for the viewing angle its fine for me to use on my own but sharing with someone else i.e person on the sofa next to me, I would have to point the screen at them for it to be properly visible. For some reason the viewing angle is better upside down. The screen in my opinion seems good when looked at from the correct viewing angle.

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    Right, I think I've narrowed my choices down to two models:
    Elonex 10" eTouch 1044ET Tablet £199
    C91_zenithink £150ish

    Concerns over Chinese imports do make me favour the Elonex one, but I'm not sure what the "progressive display" is; they have a capacitive model for another £30 (Elonex 10" eTouch 1040ET Tablet). Anyone know?

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    I spoke too soon - neither of those Elonex ones seem to actually exist, as I can't find anyone selling them.

    This brings me back to the C91 or a selection of others which have resistive screens not capacitive - are they that much better?

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    Quote Originally Posted by enjay View Post
    This brings me back to the C91 or a selection of others which have resistive screens not capacitive - are they that much better?
    Yes! afaik you can't have multitouch with resistive. That alone stops you using many apps as they were designed, you soon get sick of having no "pinch" zoom.
    They are also not very responsive or accurate. Honestly I wouldn't even contemplate it mate, you will regret it.

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