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Netbooks, PDA and Phones Thread, Proxy still stuffed on 3.1 in Technical; Google need shooting Ive got a galaxy tab 10.1 which is the current best droid tablet available Ive waited till ...
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    Proxy still stuffed on 3.1

    Google need shooting
    Ive got a galaxy tab 10.1 which is the current best droid tablet available

    Ive waited till now as obviouly you need proxy capability in a school

    Well the tab has some capability but its minimilistic

    Yiu can brosw the net but not bypass for local ips


    And yiu cant dowload from the market, i have to switch to using my phone as hotspot to dowload edu apps for testing

    Its a b....y disgrace

    Shame on you google/Samsung

    Keybords not grate ither
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    I use wireless at work with internet via a proxy on my galaxy s in it's stock form, I did notice not being able to get on the market via it though.

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    The keyboard looks blxxdy awful! The pedant in me is crying to re-type that post for you!

    It is infuriating that Google are being so closed minded about the need for proxy - it's the one major let down for the Android system in my opinion and they're painting themselves in a bad light by refusing to listen to the masses of people who have been asking for this since day one!

    [NOTE: is it just me or did that come off as management speak? Got to stop helping the missus with her NVQ...]

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    I can get apps to work no problem and market as long as i have opened browser and logged into proxy. Does seem to ignore exceptions though

    For what diff it makes transformer running 3.2

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    Google's Outlook plugin for Appsync is also crap with proxies (it doesn't like authenticating much). I am not the biggest fan of mr Google.

    OTOH, the newer builds of Android support SNI, so are much more suitable for transparent proxying than their predecessors.

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    Sounds like my iPad, I can only get Safari working at work on that, when it comes to the App Store or Apps I have to switch to our unproxied backup ADSL line.

    Bit ridiculous considering both 'droid and iOS are now being targeted at enterprise environments.

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    We had some students bring us android pads to connect last week- we're one of those 'open' schools that many on here hate the idea of, where kids bring in their own stuff and we just provide the infrastructure.

    Anyway, most windows based devices pick up the proxy automatically - but the android 3's didn't (ipads don't either). We just gave the kids the proxy settings and they hooked up first time. All their courses, email etc is http/https and that worked fine through the proxy (pac file through smoothwall, auth to AD). The citrix client worked fine with the proxy settings, but access to the market wasn't available, so adding the client was the most traumatic bit - presumably android doesn't use https for market.

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    @losojos
    I've found it comes with swype and I've changed it to use that as the default keyboard so at least that's one thing I've got working better

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    Annoyingly the iPhone Config Utility will let you sent wifi passwords to a iOS device, but not proxy settings. Seems like the only way forward is transparent proxies, what's the easiest way to set that up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mavhc View Post
    Annoyingly the iPhone Config Utility will let you sent wifi passwords to a iOS device, but not proxy settings. Seems like the only way forward is transparent proxies, what's the easiest way to set that up?
    Make a proxy your default gateway for wireless devices. You can happily make the proxy's default gateway your "real" default gateway, and a well configured proxy should ignore all non-http(s) traffic and pass it to the real deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tom_newton View Post
    Make a proxy your default gateway for wireless devices. You can happily make the proxy's default gateway your "real" default gateway,
    How does this work in practice? does squid listen on port 80 and 443 or do you redirect 80/443 through squid?

    Also, should note that many LA firewalls will block non-http/s traffic, which doesn't help things.

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    Make a proxy your default gateway for wireless devices.
    You can happily make the proxy's default gateway your "real" default gateway,
    and a well configured proxy should ignore all non-http(s) traffic and pass it to the real deal.
    Can you go over that slowly please

    Simon
    PS And name a product for the job

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyberNerd View Post
    How does this work in practice? does squid listen on port 80 and 443 or do you redirect 80/443 through squid?

    Also, should note that many LA firewalls will block non-http/s traffic, which doesn't help things.
    Iptables (or WCCP in a pinch) is used to hijack the HTTP/S traffic and then something like TPROXY to help it on its way through squid. This is the sort of naff implementation detail you dont need to worry about if you have a filtering vendor to help out tho

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    Quote Originally Posted by SimpleSi View Post
    Can you go over that slowly please

    Simon
    PS And name a product for the job

    I guess you can work out which product I can name.

    So.. lets say you have your wireless clients on a particular IP range, 192.168.7.0/24
    Their gateway is a firewall on 192.168.7.254
    They get to know of this gateway via the eternal miracle of DHCP

    1. You get a "Product X" filter (see how amazingly unbiased he is, marvel at his bias free words... )
    2. You put it on 192.168.7.253, and say "please be a transparent proxy, thanks, your gateway is 192.168.7.254"
    3. You change DHCP so the wireless devices get 192.168.7.253 as their gateway
    4. (optional, more secure) you configure your gateway firewall to only allow http(s)connections from 253
    5. Cackle slightly evilly as folk get their internets filtered

    Note: this only works for HTTPS traffic for clients which support SNI. See Wiki for list. Notable baddies: IE on XP, Older Android, iphone3 and below.

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    So.. lets say you have your wireless clients on a particular IP range, 192.168.7.0/24
    Their gateway is a firewall on 192.168.7.254
    They get to know of this gateway via the eternal miracle of DHCP
    But how is this miracle performed? How do the server gods know which clients are wireless???

    Si



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