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    Using iPad in school with proxy server!

    Hi Guys

    One of the schools I support has got some iPads in school now. The school uses a Sophos Web Appliance for its internet filtering.

    The iPads are setup to go through the proxy server and they work for web browsing just fine. However, for some reason when you try and use the native mail app, it doesn't seem to get through to the internet. We have tried for a while now to figure this one out and even had Sophos on the case but can't seem to get it working.

    Any suggestions?

    Cheers!

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    settings -> wi-fi -> select wireless network which authenticates and connects ( gets valid ip / network info ) --> press the arrow pointing to the right --> scroll to the bottom and you can enable proxy setting either manual where you can specify port, server and authentication on or off or you can do it automagically using a pac file

    I presume you have tried both ways and both do not work ?

    If they require authentication is there no way you can create a standard ad account which has the correct proxy security group or whatever and then use this account as the authentication details on the ipads ?

    Otherwise users will have to put there AD Details in if it requires authentication but then not sure if doing the above will help unless the teachers are aware of the above default ad account logon details ?

    Also does the mail app require internet access ie is the mail server on your domain ( LAN ) or is it as you stated external ie LEA Mail server ?

    If external then I presume its exchange and if exchange which version ie 2003, 2007 ?

    Only other thing I can think of is on your proxy server are there any logs to show date / time when you tried to access mail and it got denied on your proxy server or what port is the ipad trying to use to access mail ( again hoping it shows this on your proxy server ) to see if its the same port as what a normal pc would use
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    Check DNS servers that are setup on the iPads... find a ping app to install, whack it on, and try to contact the mailservers with that...

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    use a .pac file and specify a bypass on the email servers IP address

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    iPad Mail App through Proxy

    You have to set up firewall rules for the mail app to work. We had to set up an SMTP rule and add all of the ports for all of the different mail providers. Some other apps don't support proxies that require authentication regardless of what you set up in the proxy settings on the device.

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    You have posted this in the wrong forum. an iPad isnt a mac. It should be here: Netbooks, PDA and Phones

    sorry

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    Quote Originally Posted by FN-GM View Post
    an iPad isn't a Mac.
    How do you define "Mac"?

    iOS is derived from Mac OS X, with which it shares the Darwin foundation, and is therefore a Unix operating system.

    In iOS, there are four abstraction layers: the Core OS layer, the Core Services layer, the Media layer, and the Cocoa Touch layer. (Source)
    NeXTStep formed much of the foundation for the operating system that became Mac OS X. Mac OS X was subsequently modified to provide the operating system for the spectacularly successful iPhone. What was then called iPhone OS was later renamed iOS to coincide with the introduction of the iPad. (Source)
    Around 2005, Jobs faced a crucial decision. Should he give the task of developing the device’s software to the team that built the iPod, which wanted to build a Linux-based system? Or should he entrust the project to the engineers who had revitalized the software foundation of the Macintosh? In other words, should he shrink the Mac, which would be an epic feat of engineering, or enlarge the iPod? Jobs preferred the former option, since he would then have a mobile operating system he could customize for the many gizmos then on Apple’s drawing board. Rather than pick an approach right away, however, Jobs pitted the teams against each other in a bake-off.

    Forstall led the Mac-centric approach. He commanded a team of fewer than 15 engineers who went to work stripping down Apple’s OS X operating system to see if it would work on a device with considerably less power and battery life than a regular computer. Leading the other group was Fadell, who helped create the iPod. Another boy wonder, Fadell in 2005 had become one of Apple’s youngest-ever senior vice-presidents at 36. The competition, according to former Apple employees, turned explosive, with Fadell and Forstall arguing over talent, resources, attention, and credit.

    Forstall’s team managed to get their shrunken Mac system to work, and Jobs went with that software approach. (Source)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur View Post
    How do you define "Mac"?
    If we are going like that maybe it should be in the Nix forum

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    I've had issues with the Proxy on iPads, wouldn't work just entering "proxy" as normal, but did work when entering the IP address of the proxy server...

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    We just enter the DNS name of our proxy server in any iOS devices - Windows PCs do WPAD perfectly fine but never seems to work just right with iOS (for us at least!).

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