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    Right I for testing purposes only installed android onto my HTC Touch Pro 2 first thing how do you set up a proxy server on a wireless network.

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    I might be mistaken but wasn't that a problem with Android - no proxy support except from some third party apps?

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    Don't think you can (without 3rd party apps)

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    You can't set up proxies AFAIK... I've got a G1 running 1.6 and I've never been able to use a proxy server.

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    Same here, I've got a G1 with 1.6 and it's one of the frustrations - & I didn't like the look of some of the third party apps.

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    You can't set proxies on android at the moment. Version 2.2 is supposed to let you do this.

    However what you can do is set your filter etc at a gateway level which avoids the need for a proxy in the first and then plays nicely with android, ios, osX, linux etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by danbuntu View Post
    You can't set proxies on android at the moment. Version 2.2 is supposed to let you do this.

    However what you can do is set your filter etc at a gateway level which avoids the need for a proxy in the first and then plays nicely with android, ios, osX, linux etc
    That argument is not a very good one. Many don't have the capability or the power to implement transparent proxying. Why should businesses and schools have to change the way their entire network provides internet access because Android devs couldn't see the need for proxy support? Something that corporate IT has been using for decades...

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    No proxy in 2.1 either, it's Android's biggest downfall at the minute, and there's no mention of support being added for 2.2 either...

    Quote Originally Posted by danbuntu View Post
    You can't set proxies on android at the moment. Version 2.2 is supposed to let you do this.
    Dan, where did you hear that? I haven't seen any mention of it...

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    probably because Google want to give everyone the fastest and easiest way possible to hook up to an internet connection with out requiring much input from the user. Also Google like to try and push things their ways. And yes corporate IT have proxies for decades, but that doesn't mean that the right thing/ only way to do things now-a-days. This is exactly the argument we've had here, finally the Admin caved in and got transparent proxying working and now we a bunch more happy customers.

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    oh dear not a good start Iphone 1 - Andriod 0





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    Quote Originally Posted by danbuntu View Post
    probably because Google want to give everyone the fastest and easiest way possible to hook up to an internet connection with out requiring much input from the user. Also Google like to try and push things their ways. And yes corporate IT have proxies for decades, but that doesn't mean that the right thing/ only way to do things now-a-days. This is exactly the argument we've had here, finally the Admin caved in and got transparent proxying working and now we a bunch more happy customers.
    How else do you propose a business/school provide authenticated internet access to their users? With such a large number of requirements for logging and tracking what people are doing on corporate and education networks, unauthenticated networks would be a huge security risk!

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    I'm staggered by the number of people who don't/can't have a simple default gateway set up on the network.

    @Russdev If you take into consideration more than just the issue of proxy server, I reckon that score will soon begin to tip in Android's favour; considering how locked-down the iPhone is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by webman View Post
    I'm staggered by the number of people who don't/can't have a simple default gateway set up on the network.
    We have a default gateway. It just doesn't include HTTP traffic, as we need to be able to log users against traffic. Without any authentication data, how do you do that?

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    how about something like this:
    Multi-functional Firewall Software - Open Source Content Filter & Spam Filter | Untangle.com ?
    nobody said any thing about unauthenticated

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