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Netbooks, PDA and Phones Thread, 30 Surface RT's... What to do with them? in Technical; Option 1 seems to be the common usage and was my preference however you cannot download apps. Reading this http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...0Education.pdf ...
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    Option 1 seems to be the common usage and was my preference however you cannot download apps.

    Reading this http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...0Education.pdf You can sideload them, but you need another product key!

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    I WOULD suggest selling them except that they seem to be pretty much worthless on the second hand market. I've been trying to sell one for months with no takers and am now considering accepting a decent bottle of wine or a couple of movie tickets in exchange for it. And it's a 64GB model.

    Surface RT aka Zune 2.0...

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    Quote Originally Posted by fairm010 View Post
    We have 30 Surface RT's here and I am at a loss with them at the moment.

    I see two options with them.

    1) Use Local accounts on them, they can be used for web browsing, office suite. Prevents use of Apps.

    2) Use a shared MS account on them all. Can use Apps using this method but it requires a sign in at the start and my concern is, what if the MS account password is changed. Will that lock all 30 surfaces out?

    Please can someone with knowledge of these things get back to me on what I can do with them.

    The head is pushing toward shared (trolley) use.
    We use them with option 1. We have a script they run to connect them to shared drives. They are used by our SEN staff to support students.

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    @fiza could I possibly have a copy of that script?

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    Quote Originally Posted by seawolf View Post
    I WOULD suggest selling them except that they seem to be pretty much worthless on the second hand market. I've been trying to sell one for months with no takers and am now considering accepting a decent bottle of wine or a couple of movie tickets in exchange for it. And it's a 64GB model.

    Surface RT aka Zune 2.0...
    I'll trade you bottles of wine for it

    Quote Originally Posted by localzuk View Post
    You can hook them up to Windows InTune, however it is *very* expensive. No-one has been able to get me pricing for it other than telling me things like 60k per year.
    That'll give you MDM management but still doesn't solve how to give a user in your organisation a turnkey solution where they can take a tablet, sign in using an existing account and Metro apps use their O365 login seamlessly.

    It just seems so silly having to sign into Lync, then OneNote, then Office when the account info should be sitting in the OS then provided to the apps without further user effort.

    Ironically the devices work better in the consumer space where MS have barely any market share (tablet wise particularly) yet the enterprise market that makes the money seems to be treated as a second rate citizen.
    Last edited by gshaw; 10th June 2014 at 01:04 PM.

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    It would seem that the majority uses Option 1. This (to my knowledge and MS documentation) prevents you using Apps. The head wants Apps to be used.

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    I fibbed we use option 2 (hadn't read it properly) - one account on all our tablets - we have a small list of apps we've downloaded.

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    Pricing for Intune in $ is available on microsoft's website: Windows Intune.

    Basically you need to add SCCM (1 per user on EES) and then Intune on ontop (3.90)

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    Thats quite pricey for a small school. Also the MS docu I attached says that using one account on more than one device breaks their EULA.

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    surfacelogon.txt
    Quote Originally Posted by BKGarry View Post
    @fiza could I possibly have a copy of that script?
    Nothing complicated. Substitute your own share names. Couldn't upload as bat file so its just a txt file.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fairm010 View Post
    Thats quite pricey for a small school. Also the MS docu I attached says that using one account on more than one device breaks their EULA.
    Is it not the EES users, ie. if you have 80 FTE then you pay for 80 users?

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    I'm not sure. I can't find any conclusive evidence on this. The heads doing some enquiries so will post results.

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    thank you @fiza

    I wonder if I could code this into a VB .net app to enter the details, although the last time i even attempted something like that was 9 years ago with Visual Basic 6

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    I am surprised no one has mentioned remote apps yet,I use them by locking down the tablet as much as possible with the built in parent setting then configuring the child account to auto-login the surfaces then go back to they're own VLAN which has no internet access except the remote app server and a share with the remote apps on it, then user have access to all there apps and if you put the apps/programs on server 2012 you can use touch optimization for remote apps which is pretty dam good. So far I have had no complaints just praise which is very rare and of course people are used to the standard desktop environment the only issue is when some monkey clicks remember me on the credentials prompt then the whole thing falls to pot
    *I forgot the mention they access windows store apps through Remote App as well.
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    What about using them as a thin client (i.e. VDI) and then you could serve up any OS you please including Win 8/8.1 and authenticating as normal with network accounts? The Surface RT should have enough grunt to make this work reasonably.

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