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    40 Apple TVs in school

    Hi All,
    I have been asked to put an apple tv in each classroom so that each staff member can project their iPad onto their whiteboard.
    That's no problem as I have done it to 9 classrooms already.
    My worry is that as they are wireless they may start causing issues as there will be so many of them.
    Has anyone else done this and if so did you have to carry out any extra work?

    Thanks

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    also have a look at air server, it places a client on the pc and you basically view the iPad on the pc.. its a lot cheaper than an apple tv.
    AirServer - The Most Advanced AirPlay Receiver for Mac and PC

    We ave a couple of apple TVs and air servers around and haven't had any difficulties so far.

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    We were just about to order 10 Apple Tv's but we tried a demo of airserver and have had no issues at all with it

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    They use quite a bit of broadcast traffic, personally I would look at sticking them on a separate VLANS (along with the iPads.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by reggiep View Post
    My worry is that as they are wireless they may start causing issues as there will be so many of them.
    As pointed out above, have a look at AirServer for a cheaper option. Also, less devices to go on your wireless network. Either way, you're going to have 40 Airplay devices on your network. Airplay uses Bonjour to announce itself to the rest of the network, so you're going to have 40 devices all periodically doing a network-wide broadcast announcing themselves - for 10 devices that might work okay, for 40 that might be a bit much. Also, any time anyone connects an iPad, they'll get a list of 40 Airplay devices to choose from.

    I'm going for AirServer installed on wired PCs, with filtering at the edge switch level to stop Bonjour traffic leaving a switch. Our wireless endpoints are directly connected to our switches, so when you connect to a wireless device you should be able to see just local Airplay devices (ones connected to the same switch as you), and hopefully Airplay traffic through the central switch should be reduced / eliminated.

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    There's another disadvantage to Apple TV's - the remotes are pretty small, and go missing easily... and the devices are pretty much useless without them...

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    We have around 40 also here, never had any Wi-Fi issues. You should be fine!!

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    We have 30+ Apple TVs here, we use the wired ethernet though to help reduce the amount of wireless traffic.

    Quote Originally Posted by RichCowell View Post
    There's another disadvantage to Apple TV's - the remotes are pretty small, and go missing easily... and the devices are pretty much useless without them...
    The remotes are in our office as they are not needed once setup. The Apples TVs switch them selfs on and off and since we Airplay everything to them i don't see why the remote would be needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quackers View Post
    The remotes are in our office as they are not needed once setup. The Apples TVs switch them selfs on and off and since we Airplay everything to them i don't see why the remote would be needed.
    I meant if anyone wants to use them for anything other than AirPlay...

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    If you have an i fondleslab then the remote app will let you use that as the remote! if you just want to be able to stream from your fondleslab then you can use what has been mentioned above AirServer or you can do the same via a Pi as well Using a Raspberry Pi as an AirPlay Receiver - Tuts+ Mac Computer Skills Article Seems a bit much installing aTVs all over the place at apples prices.

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    Reg! I'm in a school with 32 here and we occasionally get issues with videos being shown while mirrored, but plugging ethernet in resolves that problem. You could run ethernet to the ones where you have spare sockets to reduce the load on the Wifi?

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    With that many you'd probably be better off getting a separate wireless infrastructure to cope with them all.

    Try and speak to Apple Education for tech advice or an Apple Specialist Reseller as that's a lot of devices to buy all in one go and could be a very expensive mistake.

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    Out of interest, have you looked a chromecast? Just thinking £100 a pop for a Apple TV vs £30 for chromecast, times that by 40... works for IOS as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by matt40k View Post
    £100 a pop for a Apple TV
    As of yesterday, the Apple TV is now £65.83 + VAT.

    Still expensive compared to a Chromecast, but only by £40.83.

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    On cost alone, if nothing else, Airserver for me is the way to go. One off payment for our site of, I think something like $39 against that we bought three Apple TV sets along with HDMI / VGA converters which came in with a cost of over £100 a set. Plus there's the other issue of where to safely place the Apple TV / Converter kit. Tried fixing it to a wall but it was still a mess and also pretty open to thieves.

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