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    One more: Folders to store related stuff in. Folders are an inevitability.

    Enterprises need to have control of their stuff. icloud for storage of corporate data is not acceptable.

    Also from a user's point of view you can't do a serious amount of work without a filing system. Google already tried a new paradigm with tags instead of folders. It didn't work for the masses, they went back to folders (which is really a hierarchical tagging system). Tags are great, but not a replacement for filing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edu-IT View Post
    Jumping up and down AND clapping!
    I stand corrected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by psydii View Post
    One more: Folders to store related stuff in. Folders are an inevitability.

    Enterprises need to have control of their stuff. icloud for storage of corporate data is not acceptable.

    Also from a user's point of view you can't do a serious amount of work without a filing system. Google already tried a new paradigm with tags instead of folders. It didn't work for the masses, they went back to folders (which is really a hierarchical tagging system). Tags are great, but not a replacement for filing.
    Point is, is that iOS does not have a proper readable file system - Its all inside the app's themselves. They would have to re-write and add a file system capable of actually supporting folders and proper enterprise level stuff, but they won't do this because they have a vision for all the shiny iOS devices to be used by consumers, people who do not care what file system they have, but at the same time - They also love pushing this stuff into Education. Madness.

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    [QUOTE=Tricky_Dicky;981748]AirDrop looks brilliant. From a teaching point of view it would be great if you could send it to a group./QUOTE]
    That, it can do.

    You can send to anyone in the room with AirDrop on (if you choose).

    Quote Originally Posted by Tricky_Dicky View Post
    Why would you block it? Are your iPads in a 1:1 scheme? If so, I wouldn't dream of blocking it as by letting the children discover/maintian and update their own devices is part of learning.
    I did say 'whilst we tested it'.

    There was an iOS 6 update last year (or was it even iOS 6 itself?) that had a bug in where most people who had installed it chose to restore the previous version. I'm not doing that on 130 devices.

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    WiFi Hotspot 2.0 !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SovietRussia View Post
    Point is, is that iOS does not have a proper readable file system - Its all inside the app's themselves. They would have to re-write and add a file system capable of actually supporting folders and proper enterprise level stuff, but they won't do this because they have a vision for all the shiny iOS devices to be used by consumers, people who do not care what file system they have, but at the same time - They also love pushing this stuff into Education. Madness.
    Actually, iOS already has a "proper" file system, it is just organised by App (app silos) rather than the traditional desktop, documents, etc. hierarchy and most app data is in private/var/mobile/Library or private/var/mobile/Applications. iOS shares much with OSX under the hood including HFS+ file system and a UNIX architecture.

    These things are just hidden from users unless you jailbreak or use other tools to view them. However, as Apple seems to be adding more and more higher level functions to iOS over time, it will begin to have more parity with OSX feature-wise even while OSX begins to look in appearance more like iOS.

    Why not up just provide all of this power to users right from the start? Because just slapping OSX in a phone or tablet wouldn't have done anything to simplify computing for the average person and it would have required greater processing power than was possible for an iPhone size device and battery life would have been non-existent. People seem to forget that everything in life is a compromise. Choosing what can be compromised and what cannot be is never easy.

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