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    Well, looks like samsung will be cost just as much:

    Samsung starts taking pre-orders for its Windows 8 PC lineup -- Engadget

    Samsung ATIV Smart PC 500T = $749.99
    Samsung ATIV Smart PC Pro 700T = $1,199.99
    Samsung Series 5 Ultra Touch: Intel® Core™ i3: $809.99; Intel® Core™ i5: $859.99
    Samsung Series 7 All-In-One: 27-inch: $1,699.99; 23.6-inch: $1,099.99
    Samsung Series 5 All-In-One: $799.99
    Samsung Series 7 Notebook: $1,099.99
    Samsung Series 9 Premium Ultrabook: Starting at $1,299.99

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    Quote Originally Posted by dan400007 View Post
    Well, looks like samsung will be cost just as much:

    Samsung starts taking pre-orders for its Windows 8 PC lineup -- Engadget

    Samsung ATIV Smart PC 500T = $749.99
    Samsung ATIV Smart PC Pro 700T = $1,199.99
    Samsung Series 5 Ultra Touch: Intel® Core™ i3: $809.99; Intel® Core™ i5: $859.99
    Samsung Series 7 All-In-One: 27-inch: $1,699.99; 23.6-inch: $1,099.99
    Samsung Series 5 All-In-One: $799.99
    Samsung Series 7 Notebook: $1,099.99
    Samsung Series 9 Premium Ultrabook: Starting at $1,299.99
    Samsung ATIV TAB 550 GBP
    Acer Iconica w510
    Asus have a few, cant remember names
    hp elite tab, going for the business market again

    Quote Originally Posted by dan400007 View Post
    Capita, keep up with the times? Can't really see it. I am aware of a couple of VLE creators working on HTML 5 versions of their registrations systems which write back to Sims.NET. Since that HTML 5 can easily be moved into an RT App we may see something in the next year or so.
    Capita want Apps and partners, they incorrectly put down HTML5 on this very site for this reason. Please sell us schools the SIMS client software again! Seeing as they still cant make SIMS and FMS properly compliant with Windows7 (well 95, but we'll say 7 just because it gets in your face about it) I wouldn't hold out much hope.

    Remoteapp and html5 app repackages for RDS machines could do the same job and mean you only have to update 1 sims client computer, Solus3 should be able to handle that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Ben View Post
    Is there going to be a x86 based version?
    Yes.


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    Must admit I am a bit disapointed with the price of the one on pre-order and worried what the Pro version will be like as I was quite keen to get one of them myself as many know I am not an Apple fan and one of these would be a great tool for me at home and work but if the entry level RT one is so high I'll just stick to carrying a laptop around with me. For the money I guess it will be an ultrabook is going to be less money!

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    If anyone wants to ask Microsoft some questions about the Surface RT/Pro, there's currently an AMA on Reddit. Steven Sinofsky is there too.

    www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/11kyja/iam_panos_panay_gm_of_microsoft_surface_amaa_ask/c6ndm9j

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    Quote Originally Posted by john View Post
    Must admit I am a bit disappointed with the price of the one on pre-order
    The iPad is actually more expensive if you compare like-for-like (even if you choose a cheaper third-party keyboard case). How can you be disappointed?

    iPad 3 (32GB WiFi) - £479.00 (Total = £655.97)

    Surface RT (32GB WiFi with Black Touch Cover) - £479.00 (Total = £479.00)
    • Word, Excel, PowerPoint, OneNote - £0.00
    • Touch Keyboard/Cover - £0.00
    • Built-In MicroSDXC Slot - £0.00
    • Built-In HD Video Port - £0.00


    Quote Originally Posted by gshaw View Post
    Needs to be a good £100 cheaper than the iPad to make the headlines
    The Surface RT is £176.97 cheaper than an iPad of the same capacity.

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    I'm disapointed as its a cut down limited one which will suffer for apps if it doesn't take off (I want it to but as others have said on here and elsewhere its a bit of a late comer to the party as was Windows Phone 7 ) so I would have hoped to encourage take-off it would have been £100 less for the entry level one to encourage people to get it bought, for that price people will take a punt, I know if I bought an iPad at least I will get hundreds / thousands of apps no issues, the Slate RT who knows what I will get in 2 years time if its a flop

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    Quote Originally Posted by dan400007 View Post
    Well, looks like samsung will be cost just as much:

    Samsung starts taking pre-orders for its Windows 8 PC lineup -- Engadget

    Samsung ATIV Smart PC 500T = $749.99
    Samsung ATIV Smart PC Pro 700T = $1,199.99
    Samsung Series 5 Ultra Touch: Intel® Core™ i3: $809.99; Intel® Core™ i5: $859.99
    Samsung Series 7 All-In-One: 27-inch: $1,699.99; 23.6-inch: $1,099.99
    Samsung Series 5 All-In-One: $799.99
    Samsung Series 7 Notebook: $1,099.99
    Samsung Series 9 Premium Ultrabook: Starting at $1,299.99
    I like the look of those Samsung ATIV tablets. Obviously inspired by the Asus transformer. It'll be interesting to see what kind of of price they come in at with the atom processor and how that affects the performance/battery?

    Once again they've chosen to go with a 1366x768 screen on the above models though? Surely it can't cost them that much more to up it to 1920x1080? I'd let them away with it on a low end tablet for £200-300 but these things will likely end up being priced around £600. Is it really too much to ask!

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    I can't beleive no one has posted the ad yet, it looks like they actually hired advertisers who wanted to sell the product this time which is quite a change:


    The bit I liked was this:
    The tablet’s Vapor Magnesium case and Gorilla Glass 2.0 screen are remarkably sturdy, Microsoft says. To prove the point, Sinofsky briefly stood on top of a Surface that had been equipped with skateboard wheels.
    How useful would that level of toughness be in a school, especially when you can actually make it run flash for various sites by submitting them
    Microsoft Surface: The Price Is Out but Mysteries Remain | Techland | TIME.com

    Summation, I want one.

    http://mobile.slashdot.org/story/12/...ith-apple-ipad
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    Quote Originally Posted by john View Post
    I'm disappointed as it's a cut down limited one which will suffer for apps if it doesn't take off
    The Surface RT has the advantage that WinRT apps will also run on regular Windows 8 PCs too, so I don't think lack of apps will be an issue. All of the usual apps are going to be there eventually e.g. Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Pinterest, eBay, Dropbox, Evernote, Kindle, Spotify, iPlayer, LoveFilm, Netflix, Flipboard, Skype, Angry Birds, Cut The Rope, etc. etc.

    Most x86 desktop apps aren't optimized for touch screens so does it actually matter that they won't run on the Surface RT?

    Quote Originally Posted by john View Post
    I would have hoped to encourage take-off it would have been £100 less for the entry level one to encourage people to get it
    The problem is Microsoft can't undercut and alienate the other OEMs.

    Quote Originally Posted by john View Post
    who knows what I will get in 2 years time if its a flop
    MS can spend vast sums of money to ensure it isn't a flop, just like they did with the Xbox 360. For Windows 8 alone, they are spending almost $2 billion on advertising.

    Developers will also be able to make apps that run on Windows 8 PCs/slates, Windows RT tablets, Windows Phone 8 smartphones and the next Xbox without too much effort. That's a lot of devices even if one of them doesn't sell particularly well.

    I think there's enough room in the market for the four major players (Apple, Google, Microsoft & Amazon) and their various eco-systems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SYNACK View Post
    The bit I liked was this:
    Me too. I hope more manufacturers PvD tablets and other electronics. I refuse to buy anything made with glossy black plastic!

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    Its also daft the 64gb one can only be bought with a black floppy keyboard unless you want 2 keyboards

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    Quote Originally Posted by flyinghaggis View Post
    Once again they've chosen to go with a 1366x768 screen on the above models though? Surely it can't cost them that much more to up it to 1920x1080? I'd let them away with it on a low end tablet for £200-300 but these things will likely end up being priced around £600. Is it really too much to ask!
    My laptop is full hd on a 13" screen (vaioz21) and its too much, need to adjust OS to 125% to actually see things properly. High resolution is nice but needless in some cases, especially on an even smaller screen. Other devices get away with it by doubling the scale, a bit pointless.

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