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MIS Systems Thread, Number 1 most important aspect of your MIS in Technical; Originally Posted by LisaJMarks I know no timetablers that timetable on paper, they rely heavily on a system to keep ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by LisaJMarks View Post
    I know no timetablers that timetable on paper, they rely heavily on a system to keep the school running.
    I used to!
    There were no PCs in those days.
    (..and SIMS did not exist either!)

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    Did you cope well with the alternative curriculum all these new requirements, or did you turn a blind eye to these heathen ideas?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sivadam View Post
    I used to!
    There were no PCs in those days.
    (..and SIMS did not exist either!)
    I know and have witnessed the pin boards, but today in large secondaries, I do no know of any timetabler that uses paper, rather than system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matt40k View Post
    Did you cope well with the alternative curriculum all these new requirements, or did you turn a blind eye to these heathen ideas?
    Funnily enough we did do this!
    It was dead simple! A note was written and posted on the Staffroom Noticeboard! Job done!
    Remember - all Registers were in the old 'Official' Register Books or, for classes, in a teachers notebook!
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    Quote Originally Posted by LisaJMarks View Post
    I know and have witnessed the pin boards, but today in large secondaries, I do no know of any timetabler that uses paper, rather than system.
    No Pinboard for me!
    I had a foolscap steel sheet and thin cut out magnetic strips on which I used to paste paper strips containing the blocks. I could then move them around using a pair of forceps! I had this duplicated for Staff and triplicated for Rooms! Doing it that way meant that I could photocopy (yes we did have 'em back then!) the changes at any time so that I could revert back very easily! Once complete I hand wrote the whole lot onto to three Timetables - Pupil, Staff, Rooms

    Am I glad when Clive Stott arrived with his Nova Timetable (Pre-SIMS!)?
    Last edited by Sivadam; 28th February 2012 at 07:45 AM.

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    For us as an Independent school, I would say that the biggest benefit has come from targetted communication with the parent base.

    We are able to direct communication (by email or sms) at individual pupils, sets, forms etc which we were not able to do on our previous MIS.

    Also the parent portal is a huge benefit to keeping parents informed of detentions, reports etc. We no longer produce any paper reports, letters etc so this makes our administration less onerous, too.

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    @GNewnham id the SMS/Email built directly into your MIS or does it use a third party?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GREED View Post
    @GNewnham id the SMS/Email built directly into your MIS or does it use a third party?
    As far as SIMS goes, only Schoolcomms is built into the system and needs no interactive syncing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by creese View Post
    As far as SIMS goes, only Schoolcomms is built into the system and needs no interactive syncing.
    InTouch is built directly into the system. Schoolcomms has a button but still needs the app to handle the emailing

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    Quote Originally Posted by GREED View Post
    @GNewnham id the SMS/Email built directly into your MIS or does it use a third party?
    Yes, is iSAMS. Is all built in - very easy to use. We use SMS mainly for late changes eg bus late back from a sports fixture, snow warnings, info to 6th form about work etc. Stops parents waiting around for kids to come back late from trips etc - they know any deviations from planned times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by creese View Post
    As far as SIMS goes, only Schoolcomms is built into the system and needs no interactive syncing.
    Quote Originally Posted by GREED View Post
    InTouch is built directly into the system. Schoolcomms has a button but still needs the app to handle the emailing
    Yep, schoolcomms still needs manual syncing, but it does warn you at each start up when it was last synched and if it needs doing again, will run a countdown on the popup prompt.

    InTouch is built-in, but it's still an add-on (read 'paid for') module.

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    Sorry, didn't explain myself properly. I meant no syncing as in CTF exports and imports are needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by creese View Post
    Sorry, didn't explain myself properly. I meant no syncing as in CTF exports and imports are needed.
    Got you now. So what about the other products that talk to SIMS, do they need manual import output routines to update data? That sucks!
    I know the Groupcall product wont, at least it has it's own method to run a report against SIMS and then grab the output.

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    You can use the SIMS API to read\write straight from SIMS, still you can't expand the SIMS db structure. You could make use of stuff like UDFs however.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vikpaw View Post
    Got you now. So what about the other products that talk to SIMS, do they need manual import output routines to update data? That sucks!
    I know the Groupcall product wont, at least it has it's own method to run a report against SIMS and then grab the output.
    Sorry, rushing around today and new to Schoolcomms support. We are just talking about SMS/emails systems???

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    Okay... so Schoolcomms will synch, if you tick the box, without intervention.

    It will send SMS or email direct from a student's details within SIMS. The separate client is used to send to user defined groups or to create certificates.

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