Audit trails - Does your MIS have them?

[pete]

Can your MIS provide a usable audit trail to prove/disprove an action by an end-user / MIS admin should you need to?

I don't mean "Jeff logged on at 3pm and then logged off at 3:30pm".
I mean "Jeff logged on at 3pm, modified the address for StudentA and then printed off AddressReport".

And is this functionality exposed such that an end-user (or MIS admin) could choose Jeff and a date range and see a list of changes without needing third-party code / software?

I know SIMS can't - I'm just wondering if all of them lack this (IMO) pretty important functionality.

[creese]

SIMS does, but only fully in the Dinner Money 7 module.

[TronXP]

Serco Facility provides an audit trail

[Ketlane]

SchoolBase doesn't, but will do in the very near future. The change-log file becomes enormous pretty quickly, but having an audit trail is a occasionally very useful.

[wesleyw]

The way SIMS works with SQL there is no way of finding out which specific user changed things in say the Students details, profiles, assessment or behaviour which I have to agree with Pete that it's far from satisfactory in this regard not much we can do about it though sadly.


Wes

[creese]

The way SIMS works with SQL there is no way of finding out which specific user changed things in say the Students details, profiles, assessment or behaviour which I have to agree with Pete that it's far from satisfactory in this regard not much we can do about it though sadly.

How does it manage with Dinner Money 7? That has a pretty comprehensive log of changes.

[wesleyw]

Think that is seperate from the main SIMS operations. The audit trail is one of the things we've been requesting for years.

Wes

[creese]

Think that is seperate from the main SIMS operations. The audit trail is one of the things we've been requesting for years.

DM7 is not separate from from Core SIMS.

[wesleyw]

The system it uses to communicate to SQL is.

[creese]

The system it uses to communicate to SQL is.

Okay. Thanks

[pete]

DM7 is not separate from from Core SIMS.

Yes, but the better auditing is because cash is involved, not a wholesale committment to auditing.

[creese]

Yes, but the better auditing is because cash is involved, not a wholesale committment to auditing.

I realise that, I spend a lot of time trying to get that idea through to 50 odd schools. They think they can do anything they want, so the fact there is an audit trail helps a lot.

[bcruise]

I've asked my support company for SIMS & they say that there is no "good" audit trail in SIMS, so you can see whp has done what.

[TheScarfedOne]

@philneal afaik there is now an audit trail in SIMS, and you view it.from system manager 7. The boss will confirm though

[matt40k]

That is only Logon info. Lesson marks has an audit trail, like other areas of SIMS - like creese said, DM7 is another.

I believe there are plans a foot to improve Sysman7 to start to bring them into one area. Just have to remember, if it audits everything - like user x query student y - it's going to get VERY big VERY quickly. So it may only store "important" stuff.