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MIS Systems Thread, Photo import in Technical; Originally Posted by Sivadam I know that the OP did not use an external photographer but if you do:- If ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sivadam View Post
    I know that the OP did not use an external photographer but if you do:-

    If you are using a Capita approved photographer then they should provide the licence for you as part of their costs. If they don't, then look for a new photographer next year that does. They make enough out of the sales and purchasing the licence for you is the least they can do!

    The licence lasts for 12 months. It is possible to make this last for two years by having your new photo session less than 365 days from the last one. e.g. 9th September 2010 and 6th September 2011. The one licence will cover both sessions!
    But why should it be the photographer's cost to absorb? Those costs have to get covered somewhere, if they don't charge us then it hits the parents who end up paying more for the prints.

    Schools pay a hell of a lot of money to use SIMS - this additional 70 to use a basic function in the system seems both trivial and unfair to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LosOjos View Post
    But why should it be the photographer's cost to absorb? Those costs have to get covered somewhere, if they don't charge us then it hits the parents who end up paying more for the prints.

    Schools pay a hell of a lot of money to use SIMS - this additional 70 to use a basic function in the system seems both trivial and unfair to me.
    At least at the time of buying the licence you aren't forced to purchase installation and training!

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    Sure Capita would happily include the 70 odd pounds in the annual maintainance cost, not sure how schools would feel about the forced increase in cost however. Everything costs money, if Capita want to bundle it and make you buy a line sql script to license it (like FMS Suppliers export etc), I'm not complaining.

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    There are plenty of Capita Photographer Partners.
    If they won't source the Licence then they obviously don't want your business! There will be others that do!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sivadam View Post
    There are plenty of Capita Photographer Partners.
    If they won't source the Licence then they obviously don't want your business! There will be others that do!
    Except that not all 'Partner Photographers' are licensed to deal with the licensing stuff. Tempest for example are an accredited Partner photographer, and capita even says their customers should contact them direct for a license. Accredited School Photographers

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    Thanks.
    I'll add that one to my 'Do Not Use' category!
    (And I do know where to find the list thanks!)
    Last edited by Sivadam; 28th September 2011 at 06:12 PM.

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    Some schools do not want to do bulk imports ... some want to add them in manually and might update the photos more than once a year. I suppose it depends on the size of the school and the importance of the photo. We criticise Capita if they charge you for something you don't want ... and then have a go when they leave something out and it is a choice for you. Most schools will get a photographer in at some point and if the school already has the licence do you really think they will drop the price from their cost to you? From personal experience they won't ... and that was after talking with several photographers.

    I had completely forgotten about this and will be passing it around local schools again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrumbleDook View Post
    Some schools do not want to do bulk imports ... some want to add them in manually and might update the photos more than once a year. I suppose it depends on the size of the school and the importance of the photo. We criticise Capita if they charge you for something you don't want ... and then have a go when they leave something out and it is a choice for you. Most schools will get a photographer in at some point and if the school already has the licence do you really think they will drop the price from their cost to you? From personal experience they won't ... and that was after talking with several photographers.

    I had completely forgotten about this and will be passing it around local schools again.
    But why is a licence/cost necessary at all? Capita can't seriously be relying on a third party plug in to import photographs in to their own system?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LosOjos View Post
    But why is a licence/cost necessary at all? Capita can't seriously be relying on a third party plug in to import photographs in to their own system?
    From my fuzzy memory, it's not what it was, I believe that was the reason for the extra cost of the licence.

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    And the worst thing is the licence you pay for doesn't cover staff photos!

    See one of my old posts

    Bulk import staff photos

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    Quote Originally Posted by MicrodigitUK View Post
    And the worst thing is the licence you pay for doesn't cover staff photos!
    See one of my old posts
    Bulk import staff photos
    Staff do not have Admission Numbers to link to!
    And most schools would not understand the IDs behind the scenes!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sivadam View Post
    Staff do not have Admission Numbers to link to!
    And most schools would not understand the IDs behind the scenes!
    So, don't have it in big bold writing... Everyone in the modern world understands the need for unique identifiers. We all have them for loads of things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by localzuk View Post
    So, don't have it in big bold writing... Everyone in the modern world understands the need for unique identifiers. We all have them for loads of things.
    Totally agree. Plus, the majority of staff will never have any need to even know they have an ID! It's only those of us responsible for the photo imports that need to know or even care. The ID's are already there and nobody is crying in confusion as to why.

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    Quote Originally Posted by localzuk View Post
    So, don't have it in big bold writing... Everyone in the modern world understands the need for unique identifiers. We all have them for loads of things.
    True!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LosOjos View Post
    Totally agree. Plus, the majority of staff will never have any need to even know they have an ID! It's only those of us responsible for the photo imports that need to know or even care. The ID's are already there and nobody is crying in confusion as to why.
    True!

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