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    Installing SIMS on CC4 Server

    Hello all,

    I was just wondering if anything needs to be done different to the CC4 server to allow me to install SIMS onto it.

    Am going from two servers to just the one and it will be running my SIMS database.

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    Bump - same here

    I've been asking the LEA about it as well as a primary feeder school I support has a good CC4 install with all the space and compute power they need. This also would resolve issues for them regards setting up trusts between the external AD at county and the internal AD on the curriculum side.

    I assume SQL 2008 server is going to be the main issue here ?

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    Well ive got a few schools that have SIMS installed on the CC4 server and it works with no problems at all. But as im going to be installing it my self i was just wondering if anything different needs to be done to the server or whether SIMS can just be installed onto the CC4 server without a problem.

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    installing

    I assume it's pretty straight forward - giving it the DB sa account to change data in the database or maybe giving it a user with the ACLS required. I'll have a look for a document on it - getting your old data across will require SA password. Database management here is key - I've set a few up and it can take a considerable amount of time getting all the permissions correct and more importantly safe.

    Anyway I'm off hunting for the docs that might give some insight.

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    The RM/Capita recommended way of doing this is to have a vanilla member server.
    There are docs on the RM support site about this.

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    Dont want a member server though. Its all going on one

    And i hope you find them john.

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    Are you going to CC4.3? The version that runs Server 2008? If so, why not set up a virtual server for SIMS?

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    Quote Originally Posted by computerguy85 View Post
    Dont want a member server though. Its all going on one
    Sure, but just pointing that this isn't the recommended way of doing things.
    Make sure that your server is of sufficient spec, I hope you aren't running RMVP5 on the server as well as adding SIMS could kill it.

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    How would SIMS and RMVP5 kill it?

    Also dont want to go down the virtual server route.

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    You must be mad! all dc, file, database onone server, unless you re a primary school, though at very least I would have sims seperate

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    Quote Originally Posted by computerguy85 View Post
    How would SIMS and RMVP5 kill it?
    Because RMVP5 is an absolute resource hog, running it alongside all the RM stuff, general server services, *and* SIMS (with SQL which is another resource hog) is (in my opinion) not a good idea.
    If you are talking about an existing server then its going to be sever 2003 and limited to 4Gb RAM, which is don't believe is enough to smoothly run all those things.

    Personally I would always run SIMS on its own server.
    Last edited by sparkeh; 5th July 2011 at 02:53 PM.

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    Nah its going to be a new RM server so will be spec'd up enough to run them both.

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    Are you a Primary or Secondary?

    If Primary then yes you can get away with SIMS on the CC4 server.

    If secondary then I wouldn't reccomend it. You'd be much better off setting up a new server for SIMS. Do not underestimate:
    A) how much resource all of the CC4 guff uses on the server and
    B) how much CPU and RAM resource SIMS needs in a large school with perhaps 80+ concurrent users and possibly Sims Learning Gateway etc

    Butuz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butuz View Post
    Are you a Primary or Secondary?

    If Primary then yes you can get away with SIMS on the CC4 server.
    Depends on what you use it for. At my primary schools SIMS is in constant use - electronic reg, assessment analysis, reporting, profiles, SLG etc so wouldn't be happy having it on CC4 FRDC. But then they are large schools so the demands are probably higher. Getting the spec right is going to be the key here.

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    Yeah is a primary school with only a few machines using sims so not that much data going back and forth really.

    So is there anything i need to look out for with installing it to a fresh CC4 server or is it just like installing it to any other server?

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