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    Installing FMS?

    Hi there, long time no post!

    Quick question, more of clarification really.

    Installing FMS, completely safe yes? i was always lead to believe the client PC installation from S:\Sims\Setups\FMSApplicationSetup.exe or similar was completely harmless, and would never do any damage to the database or server's setup.

    I have recently been told otherwise, and have been told it can write to the db on installation and break / corrupt things. obviously as this is a accounting package, it has raised some serious concerns. (not told this by a member of capita, just FYI)

    So, i just wanted to check that the installation is completely safe. and running S:\Sims\Setups\FMSApplicationSetup.exe then editing / redirecting the fmsconnect.ini is all that is required.

    Many thanks

    Ben.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben-BSH View Post
    ...Installing FMS, completely safe yes? i was always lead to believe the client PC installation from S:\Sims\Setups\FMSApplicationSetup.exe or similar was completely harmless, and would never do any damage to the database or server's setup...
    That is my understanding. I have run S:\Sims\Setups\FMSApplicationSetup.exe [same file/same path] on all of my Finance stations without issues for the workstations, the server or the SIMS database.

    I also have not heard what you have been told [this of course does not mean that it is not true but I would say, based on my experience, that it was unlikely]

    HTH.

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    Installing FMS is, to the best of my knowledge totally safe and should not harm the DB. Logically until you edit the FMSConnect.ini file no part of FMS should even know where the DB is.

    Using FMS might not be so safe though - quite likely to send one a bit bonkers.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ben-BSH View Post
    running S:\Sims\Setups\FMSApplicationSetup.exe then editing / redirecting the fmsconnect.ini is all that is required.
    I'd usually use FMSInst.exe to install it these days if your setups (or setups\fms) directory has a copy (recent versions should have). It seems more polished and it will prompt you for installing the Infrastructure components for FMS (SQL Native Client, Barcode Fonts, BDE etc).

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    As far as I'm concerned its safe as superfletch says run FMSInst.exe from the FMS folder in setups

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    FMSinst it is then! im guessing the SIMSinst executable is the best for SIMS aswell then?!


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    Yep, SIMSInst will prompt you for the infrastructure installs, and it also installs the helps manuals and assessment resources.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveP View Post
    I have run S:\Sims\Setups\FMSApplicationSetup.exe [same file/same path] on all of my Finance stations without issues for the workstations, the server or the SIMS database.
    Same here. We're using the following batch file to install FMS - the stuff with copying FMSConnect.ini around makes sure FMS can actually find it:

    Code:
    S:\SIMS\Setups\FMSApplicationSetup.exe
    mkdir "C:\Program Files\SIMS\Finance"
    copy "\\server1\Software\FMS\FMSConnect.ini" "C:\Program Files\SIMS\Finance"
    copy "\\server1\Software\FMS\FMSConnect.ini" "c:\WINDOWS\system32"
    copy "\\server1\Software\FMS\FMSConnect.ini" "c:\Program Files\SIMS\SIMS .net"
    echo Sims Directory=C:\Program Files\SIMS\FMSSQL>>C:\WINDOWS\sims.ini
    copy "\\server1\Software\FMS\PDOXUSRS.NET" "C:\"
    
    s:
    cd S:\SIMS\Setups
    call simsperm.bat DOMAIN\Security-Group-ADMIN
    call simsperm.bat DOMAIN\Security-Group-SIMS
    call simsperm.bat DOMAIN\Security-Group-SMT
    call simsperm.bat DOMAIN\Security-Group-TEACH
    SubInAcl /FILE "C:\PDOXUSRS.NET" /GRANT=DOMAIN\Security-Group-ADMIN=F
    c:
    Last edited by vikpaw; 26th March 2012 at 02:12 PM. Reason: obfuscation

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    @dhicks - did you mean to publish the names of your servers and your security groups? Tsk tsk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timzim View Post
    did you mean to publish the names of your servers and your security groups?
    Is it likely to cause problems?

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    I'd have hidden mine, just to discourage snooping - I know a lot of pupils browse these forums.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dhicks View Post
    Is it likely to cause problems?
    Quote Originally Posted by timzim View Post
    I'd have hidden mine, just to discourage snooping - I know a lot of pupils browse these forums.
    Better late than never: just added some obfuscation.

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    Just to confirm, if you use the newer fmsinst, it moves the PDOXUSRS file to the programdata folder on Win7.

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    Does it? I've had loads of difficulty today and yesterday. Some machines running fine because it's creating and using a copy in the appdata\local\virtualstore

    But two machines the ones that have the printers installed and share for the others, wont do this virtualstore business, so i had to reinstall, and as it was still going to root of C:, for this one machine / user, i've used the bdeadmin to alter the location to the program files\sims folder. It's working okay.

    Had loads of issues with UAC, as the BDE config you see is different depending on whether you're logged in as admin / logged in as user / logged in as user with permissions over BDE.

    Something is weird on those machines the permissions are not applying as the same user is fine going to the other machine. :S
    Last edited by vikpaw; 26th March 2012 at 04:42 PM.

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    Yer, got a fresh Win7 machine, UAC on, installed FMS, copied the FMSconnect.ini across. Didn't even have a printer connected!! I think if you've got the FMS Spring 12 cd, it's got the fmsinst in it - if I remembered right, I used winrar to get to the files - it's a .zip, with a .iso with a self-extracting (wise) installer using zip compression which has the files in it... Innit.

    Printer thing doesn't seem to like the Microsoft Office Image cruddy printer thing however.

    Even easier via SOLUS3, define as a workstation wait a few mins, bosh. Done. Means even us men can multi task - just don't tell the missus!!

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    Of course! Running the upgrade wont update my installers. Or should it have done...? It updated my novasatellitesetup, so why not FMSInst?
    My version is 1.594.1.0 modified last in February 2010! I did it from Upgrade ISO.



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