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    .net 4.0 can be sent out via GPO on a silent install...

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    Whenever I run the Summer install I am getting tolerance not met errors on the server... looking at the package its trying to install the spring release first followed by the other ones up to Summer. I've already used Solus 2 to update the server so was hopeing Solus 3 would realise this and skip what has already been installed.

    Just got to ring back tech support tomo and see if they can fix whats going on. None of the clients which have used Solus 3 previosuly can attach to SQL now, I have to upgrade the cleints manually.

    Blinking pain in the bum and no mistake.

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    Sorted, didn't like the SIMS DB password I had put in..

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    Any more issues anybody?
    If people fancy doing a test install - i'm planning one, then the KBs required and some discussion of the process are here:

    http://www.edugeek.net/forums/mis-systems/74019-setting-up-test-backup.html#post713521

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    Loving System Manager 7!!!

    Its actually really well designed.

    I have not even read the 78 page manual yet as most things are intuitive Very refreshing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zag View Post
    Loving System Manager 7!!!
    Its actually really well designed.
    I have not even read the 78 page manual yet as most things are intuitive Very refreshing.
    It is very good.

    However, as I pointed out when testing it at UAT, not all System managers are on the Technical Team of a school. Indeed, some of the better ones are not! ..... Now that should illicit a few responses!!!!!

    Such System Managers do need a way of producing SysMan backups before Sysman6 is turned off. I need them, amongst other things, to send to Capita Support and Capita UAT as and when required. I do not want to rely on one of the Technical Team doing this when they are not too busy (and that is meant in it's kindest sense!). Also, the Report in Sysman6 that gives default Passwords ought to be in System7 as easiy as it is in Sysman6. And I did said this in UAT before the release of the software, and I will continue to say it at each and every opportunity!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sivadam View Post
    Such System Managers do need a way of producing SysMan backups before Sysman6 is turned off. I need them, amongst other things, to send to Capita Support and Capita UAT as and when required. I do not want to rely on one of the Technical Team doing this when they are not too busy (and that is meant in it's kindest sense!). Also, the Report in Sysman6 that gives default Passwords ought to be in System7 as easiy as it is in Sysman6. And I did said this in UAT before the release of the software, and I will continue to say it at each and every opportunity!
    Why not use a simple DBAttach script? We do this every night on all primaries and send these to Capita when needed.

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    Because I need them on demand!

    I checked my Email at Home on Wednesday evening and by 7.30pm the next morning a dataset was on it's way to Capita Support, via ftp upload, in relation to the Home page issue!
    I had backed up SIMS via Sysman6, copied it to my PC, zipped it up via Winzip v15.5 and it was uploading well before there were any other major demands on our broadband connection!

    Had the request been made for the data mid-day then I would have again been able to do it immediately!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sivadam View Post
    Because I need them on demand!
    I checked my Email at Home on Wednesday evening and by 7.30pm the next morning a dataset was on it's way to capita via ftp upload, in relation to the Home page issue!
    My question still stands.

    Run the script, 10 - 20 mins later it's ready to send, all zipped up.

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    And the techie could set it up for you, with a shortcut, so you don't even need any high level or server access to run it.

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    Something like this:

    cd..
    cd..
    cd "C:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\MSSQL10.SIMSSQL2008\
    MSSQL\binn"
    DBATTACH /AUTO /SERVER=@@@@-OFFICE\
    SIMSSQL2008 /database=simsburnbp /USER=sa /PASSWORD=@@@@@ /BACKUP

    cd..
    cd..
    cd c:\Program Files\7-Zip
    7za.exe a -mx7 d:\SIMS\SIMSSQL.7z "C:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\MSSQL10.SIMSSQL2008\
    MSSQL\backup\*.bak"

    optional
    set FileDate=%date:/=%
    ren d:\SIMS\SIMSSQL.7z SIMSSQL%filedate%.7z

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    No Thank you.
    I prefer my Backup routine from Sysman!
    Why should we have to use functionality that has worked for many, many, many years when there is no real reason to do so.

    Coincidently my Technical colleague agrees with me.

    And so did others at UAT including some of the Capita Staff!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sivadam View Post
    No Thank you.
    I prefer my Backup routine from Sysman!
    Why should we have to use functionality that has worked for many, many, many years when there is no real reason to do so.

    Coincidently my Technical colleague agrees with me.
    Your choice of course.. a shortcut in System Manager, which requires logging in, uses DBAttach, ready to zip... OR one on your desktop, which requires no login, uses DBAttach AND zips the file.

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    Quote Originally Posted by creese View Post
    Your choice of course.. a shortcut in System Manager, which requires logging in, uses DBAttach, ready to zip... OR one on your desktop, which requires no login, uses DBAttach AND zips the file.
    One would assume that one would have to re-zip that file anyway, to include the level of encryption required and reduction to as small as size as possible, as per Winzip v15.5 can produce?
    Or is that automatisable (is there such a word?) as well? If it is then I would have to wait to see the tekkie to find out what each encryption password was!
    I am one of the few that was glad when Sysman stopped producuing automatic zipping because we still had to re-zip the zip, to encrypt it, before an ftp upload!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sivadam View Post
    One would assume that one would have to re-zip that file anyway, to include the level of encryption required and reduction to as small as size as possible, as per Winzip v15.5 can produce?
    Or is that automatisable (is there such a word?) as well? If it is then I would have to wait to see the tekkie to find out what each encryption password was!
    I am one of the few that was glad when Sysman stopped producuing automatic zipping because we still had to re-zip the zip, to encrypt it, before an ftp upload!!
    Right click 7z file and add password via one of the choices... email, archive...

    I use CoreFTP which seems really fast uploading lately.

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