+ Post New Thread
Results 1 to 9 of 9
MIS Systems Thread, AM7 - Changing Aspect Names in Technical; Evening all, I was told recently by a member of the LA support team that I "can't" change the name ...
  1. #1

    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    Bristol
    Posts
    119
    Thank Post
    24
    Thanked 24 Times in 20 Posts
    Rep Power
    18

    AM7 - Changing Aspect Names

    Evening all,

    I was told recently by a member of the LA support team that I "can't" change the name of an aspect in AM7.

    Can anyone comment on this? My instinct tells me that this is similar to the warning against changing the name of a registration group in pastoral structure (i.e it is dangerous in that it changes the name of the group for all historic members)

    Basically, for various reasons I am wanting to do a major tidy up of all my aspects and want to be able to re-name some of them. Are there any unexpected consequences of doing this other than changing the name of the aspect for all historic results?

    I'm worried about being told that I can't (i.e. physically can't) when I know that I can...

    EDIT: For clarity I'm talking about the aspect name as well as the column heading. I'm also aware that the column heading name will not change in any existing templates.

  2. #2
    NorthernSands's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    Qatar
    Posts
    134
    Thank Post
    21
    Thanked 19 Times in 19 Posts
    Rep Power
    10
    I've been re-naming Aspects for years. You've mentioned one caveat: the column headers won't rename in existing templates. Another caveat is that you'll have to re-tag any Individual Reports. You're only going to run into problems if you're changing the Aspects use; i.e. English to English Language. It's not a problem for the data, but you have to remember what you've done when referencing old data.

    So, go ahead!

    Regarding the Reg Group names; changing the name to correct a spelling is fine, but changing the name completely is a no-no (because of historic data). You have to remove the group and add a new one.

  3. #3

    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    Bristol
    Posts
    119
    Thank Post
    24
    Thanked 24 Times in 20 Posts
    Rep Power
    18
    Thanks NorthernSands, that confirms what I thought, i.e. that there are no technical reasons for not changing aspect names, just operational ones.

    I find it slightly frustrating (although understandable) when I'm told that I can't do something when actually I should be told that I can, but be careful. Even, "you can, but we advise you not to" is better than "no you can't do it."

  4. #4

    GREED's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Portsmouth
    Posts
    3,033
    Thank Post
    374
    Thanked 367 Times in 299 Posts
    Blog Entries
    8
    Rep Power
    176
    I can confirm NorthernSands is correct in everything mentioned. The name is a place holder only. I think individual reports should be given a higher mention though as this can be a massive undertaking depending on the size of the report, and the number of changes needed to be made.

  5. #5

    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    Bristol
    Posts
    119
    Thank Post
    24
    Thanked 24 Times in 20 Posts
    Rep Power
    18
    Thanks GREED. Point taken about the individual reports, although part of the reasoning behind my tidy up is a complete over haul to our reporting processes so new individual reports all round! Massive Undertaking sounds about right!

  6. #6

    vikpaw's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    Saudi Arabia
    Posts
    5,851
    Thank Post
    672
    Thanked 1,383 Times in 1,145 Posts
    Rep Power
    350
    I've changed names too.

    I don't recall a problem with individual reports. Technically the key part which is the id code still is the same so shouldn't affect the working of the report. I can't remember if i had to change them anyway, so it didn't become an issue.

    It's not such a huge deal to change the reports, because you wouldn't have to bother with the wizard, there are a few tricks you can use to do a find and replace, combined with tactical use of the pilcrow button to display the full tag details. Worst case, one aspect might appear in up to 8 reports...? 1 per term plus a couple of random summaries. If you keep track of all changes methodically, it should be fairly straight forward to do, just time consuming. Unfortunately, i my skills don't extend very far into VBA / macros else it's begging for a nice script to handle it.


  7. #7

    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Posts
    2
    Thank Post
    0
    Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
    Rep Power
    0
    I don't think the individual report templates are affected. I've just tested it to double check and the results still pull through into the individual report after I have changed the names of the aspects (without adding the result tags again).

  8. Thanks to h_barnwell from:

    NorthernSands (4th April 2011)

  9. #8
    NorthernSands's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    Qatar
    Posts
    134
    Thank Post
    21
    Thanked 19 Times in 19 Posts
    Rep Power
    10
    Thanks, guys. I've always wanted to test this out, but never had the time when I needed to work and I've erred on the side of caution! Always the way...

  10. #9

    vikpaw's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    Saudi Arabia
    Posts
    5,851
    Thank Post
    672
    Thanked 1,383 Times in 1,145 Posts
    Rep Power
    350
    Quote Originally Posted by h_barnwell View Post
    I don't think the individual report templates are affected. I've just tested it to double check and the results still pull through into the individual report after I have changed the names of the aspects (without adding the result tags again).
    That's what i thought. The only reason for doing it would be for completeness and so that anyone else using them in the future doesn't get confused, but at least you can do it at your leisure.

SHARE:
+ Post New Thread

Similar Threads

  1. Widescreen aspect ratio with projector and IWB
    By LazyD in forum AV and Multimedia Related
    Replies: 13
    Last Post: 9th February 2011, 04:38 PM
  2. [SIMS] SLG Assessment - How to avoid displaying ALL instances of an Aspect
    By A_Baboon_in_the_room in forum MIS Systems
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 1st February 2011, 02:32 PM
  3. [SIMS] Good AM7 Data Structure
    By CAM in forum MIS Systems
    Replies: 9
    Last Post: 27th October 2009, 11:13 PM
  4. Importing new aspect data into SIMS
    By MattMitchell in forum MIS Systems
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 21st May 2009, 08:30 PM
  5. Sims CTF Import - Aspect not Found
    By mmuk08 in forum MIS Systems
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 16th September 2008, 09:53 AM

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •