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    Like zag said, check out scholarpack, don't dismiss it just because it's free! If you PM scholarpack I'm sure they'll set you up an online working demo so you can get hands on with it:

    View Profile: scholarpack - EduGeek.net

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPS View Post
    Serco Facility/CMIS is not 'cloud based' and should carry on running for approx another 4 years. It is installed on your own servers. However if you opt for Progresso, then yes it is hosted externally.
    Facility isn't cloud but Progresso is. New customers are going to be directed towards Progresso rather than a legacy product.

    Market share of MIS as of 2010

    Bromcom 5
    Capita 17,789
    Pearson Phoenix 651
    RM 2,063
    Serco 1,408
    Wauton Samuel 198
    Other 38

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    Quote Originally Posted by carvjo View Post
    Not entirely relevent, but good background reading:

    Becta’s School Management Information Systems and Value for Money report - it's a few years old, but still interesting.

    I believe this report led to a complaint (by an MIS vendor) which is still pending investgation with the OFT regarding the dominance of one MIS product which may have led to schools overpaying..

    ..good luck and I hope some schools using the products you mention will share useful feedback here..
    The latest report is available and has been discussed here BECTA reports on School MIS and value for money 2010
    That's where Banjo's figures have come from i'm guessing.

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    More like a FOI request of the DfE I'd say!

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    sorry to but in, can someone put me straight whether Progresso has an Accounts management system to manage school finances
    or is it just school data such as staff, pupils, assessments etc... ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilNeal View Post
    More like a FOI request of the DfE I'd say!
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    Quote Originally Posted by owen1978 View Post
    sorry to but in, can someone put me straight whether Progresso has an Accounts management system to manage school finances
    or is it just school data such as staff, pupils, assessments etc... ?
    EDIT: I thought Serco products had this, but after checking not sure this does. There's a very good thread here though with a lot of input from Serco and it's users. Serco Progresso
    Last edited by vikpaw; 12th February 2011 at 02:27 PM. Reason: Addition / correction

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    Does Bromcom really only have 5 these days?

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    That's their MIS not their lesson registration product.

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    That is the 2010 figure as quoted in the DFE report, not the current figure.
    Phil is right though that our eRegistration product user figure is still significantly higher than our full MIS user base.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scholarpack View Post
    Does Bromcom really only have 5 these days?
    I understand the Bromcom standing has grown as well as some others.
    I'd love to see the updated figures for all. Maybe we do need that freedom of information request.
    Interested to see the impact of scholarpack on the market too, and importantly, where the business has come from..

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    Quote Originally Posted by vikpaw View Post
    I understand the Bromcom standing has grown as well as some others.
    I'd love to see the updated figures for all. Maybe we do need that freedom of information request.
    Interested to see the impact of scholarpack on the market too, and importantly, where the business has come from..
    In terms of numbers of schools, fairly small - in the teens, with schools coming from no MIS, as well as Serco and WCBS Pass. One school in the last 3 years has gone from SIMS to Serco to ScholarPack.

    In terms of interest we are generating plenty, especially at LEA level, which is our primary market, where we are presenting to 5 or 6 within the next month or so (tighter budgets etc - see Norfolk council strikes yesterday, didn't they just sign a £7m contact for MIS which I believe one of the protesters complained about on Radio 4?). Many LEAs are conscious of the Becta report which essentially stipulates they have to follow EU tendering requirements, so we expect a much more open market in the near future. Long, long overdue.

    But it's early days yet and we are in this for the long haul
    Last edited by scholarpack; 15th February 2011 at 10:44 AM.

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    Indeed....

    Interesting times ahead.

    Spending 7 million on an MIS contract is absurd and just goes to show the waste involved with these types of procurements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scholarpack View Post
    But it's early days yet and we are in this for the long haul
    Promising to hear. Good luck with the presentations.

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    We are currently re-assessing our MIS and iSams at the moment is our prefered one. Although this is just a rough view need to looking at it in practice and costing is always going to be a big issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dave.81 View Post
    We are currently re-assessing our MIS and iSams at the moment is our prefered one. Although this is just a rough view need to looking at it in practice and costing is always going to be a big issue.
    It is proving popular with independent schools. What do you use at the moment?

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