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    Re: SIMS SQL 2005

    As long as it does not happen a) just before exam results, b) just before a major return (CENSUS) or c) just before one of our major reporting schedules then is will all be ok.

    Won't it?

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    Re: SIMS SQL 2005

    Greg: well bully for Oxfordshire schools who don't have to do anything, but what if they lose their internet conection eh!
    We up t'north don't have government pandering to our every whim we just get told what to do and when to tug our forelock.

    dlanor: your gonna have a heart attack if you stress too much over this, just wait to see what Capita come up with and if your LEA gets it's act together. Chill man.

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    Re: SIMS SQL 2005

    Right this may seem a really basic question but I don't have anything much to do with Sims at our place.

    From what i have read in this post there will be a fairly major upgrade for Sims because its moving to SQL 2005. Does that mean all schools are currently running SQL 2000 and therefore all are required to upgrade?

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    Re: SIMS SQL 2005

    Yes. Schools will either being SQL Server 2000 ord MSDE which is a cut down version of 2000.

    As from August onwards schools should be startmigrating to SQL Server 2005 or 2005 Express if they can't afford the full 2005 experience.

    All SIMS.net client PCs must be running .Net Frameworks 2 & 3.

    Installing 3 also gives you version 2.

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    Re: SIMS SQL 2005

    Thanks NetworkGeezer!

    I shall have to have a word with the bursar just to let her know and get her to check things out. I don't want it being a surprise to her (I know I'm such a nice guy! lol) even though we don't manage to Admin network but i still prefere a smoother running school! lol

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    Re: SIMS SQL 2005

    It's OK. At least you understood what I said depsite the typos ops:

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    Re: SIMS SQL 2005

    We currently use SQL 2000
    Do we need to get the full SQL 2005 edition (just before they bring out SQL 2008 in January)
    Our SIMS.mdf is 1.17gb
    We have about 75 teachers that will be using sims lesson monitor plus 30 admin staff. They all have the client on their laptops/PCs
    Can anyone advise

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    Re: SIMS SQL 2005

    Quote Originally Posted by Toby.Belfield
    I will be mindful of the importance that there must be no disruption in the Examinations area in August.
    Can I ask how you define "disruption"? As you are no doubt aware, timings are very tight on the morning of results day and our exams officer simply doesn't have the time to learn ANYTHING new during that time. So, if even one function is accessed in a different way, then I would say that was an unacceptable level of disruption to the exams area.

    I fully accept that there is no "good" time for an upgrade, partly because every school has different work schedules, for example, in response to the person who said August is busy with timetabling, I will say that our timetables have been done since the end of June and won't see any changes until September when "niggles" are found. BUT, August 10th is a universally bad day on which to introduce any change - however small - to the Exams Organiser module.

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    Re: SIMS SQL 2005

    We currently use SQL 2000
    Do we need to get the full SQL 2005 edition (just before they bring out SQL 2008 in January)
    yes, capita are an MS partner company - Just as they forced an upgrde from office2000 they force an upgrade for SQL server

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    Re: SIMS SQL 2005

    Nick,

    There are no changes to the Examinations Organiser module, in the August Release, that will have any impact on the import or processing of Examination Results.

    Therefore - you should not find any disruption to your use of Examinations Organiser in August.

    It is important, however, that your SIMS system is up and running on the days that the results become available - so timing the implementation of the August Release is what is important.

    Regards,

    Toby Belfield
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    Re: SIMS SQL 2005

    Got an email from our LEA support for SIMS stating that our servers would need updating and we needed to buy
    SQL Server 2005 £95.86

    All device Cal licenses upgraded to 2005 £13.12 each (for every PC connecting to the server)

    Windows 2003 Server Std. £46.71

    Hardware requirements 4 GB RAM
    Now the school has a schools agreement (3?) with Microsoft - would this cover us for the SQL stuff?
    The SIMS server currently already has Windows 2003 std on it and 5GB RAM

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    Re: SIMS SQL 2005

    Quote Originally Posted by Gatt
    Got an email from our LEA support for SIMS stating that our servers would need updating and we needed to buy
    SQL Server 2005 £95.86

    All device Cal licenses upgraded to 2005 £13.12 each (for every PC connecting to the server)

    Windows 2003 Server Std. £46.71

    Hardware requirements 4 GB RAM
    Now the school has a schools agreement (3?) with Microsoft - would this cover us for the SQL stuff?
    The SIMS server currently already has Windows 2003 std on it and 5GB RAM
    Only if you bought SQL licenses in your schools agreement.

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    Re: SIMS SQL 2005

    Rather than buying SQL Server and then the CALs for all computers, you may find it more cost effective to purchase SQL Server on a per processor licence like I have at £250ish per year and will cover an unlimited amount of devices connecting to your SQL Server. Even better is that Microsoft licence per physical processor not per core, so I only needed one licence for my Quad Core Xeon.

    Rob

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    Re: SIMS SQL 2005

    Also worth remembering that schools actually get exams results 48hrs before "Results Day" so realistically the entire results fortnight is a period to be kept clear of ALL systems work. I know those 2 weeks all I do is reimaging and new installs, no updates or infastructure changes due to the risk of blipping the internet or the admin infastructure.

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