+ Post New Thread
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 23
MIS Systems Thread, Running SIMS on centrally hosted servers in Technical; If anyone is interested we are hosting 270 school SIMS and FMS databases centrally on a farm of terminal servers. ...
  1. #1

    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    oxfordshire county council
    Posts
    20
    Thank Post
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Rep Power
    0

    Running SIMS on centrally hosted servers

    If anyone is interested we are hosting 270 school SIMS and FMS databases centrally on a farm of terminal servers. This removes the need for dedicated admin servers for our schools, no upgrades, no SIMS backups etc etc. If anyone would like to get more info or if you are implementing something similar and want to share your experiences just shout.


    Steve Edgar

  2. #2
    steve's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    West Yorkshire
    Posts
    1,044
    Thank Post
    22
    Thanked 177 Times in 123 Posts
    Rep Power
    52

    Re: Running SIMS on centrally hosted servers

    I'm very interested in this, as we are potentially looking at supporting a number of our primary schools this way.

    Obviously it won't be on the same scale but I'd be interested to learn from your experiences.

  3. #3

    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    oxfordshire county council
    Posts
    20
    Thank Post
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Rep Power
    0

    Re: Running SIMS on centrally hosted servers

    quite a few LAs are runninmg smaller scale implementations especially for their smaller schools. We actually run a number of large secondary as well as most of our primaries.

    What sort of scale are you talking about ? nos of schools etc

  4. #4
    ajbritton's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Wandsworth
    Posts
    1,632
    Thank Post
    23
    Thanked 75 Times in 45 Posts
    Rep Power
    34

    Re: Running SIMS on centrally hosted servers

    I thought FMS was not very TS friendly. How does that work?

  5. #5

    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    oxfordshire county council
    Posts
    20
    Thank Post
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Rep Power
    0

    Re: Running SIMS on centrally hosted servers

    Dead right. We have dedicated FMS servers that can handle up to 20 databases each. We are using a comination of hardware and virtual servers to handle this. No load balancing for FMS as each school goes to a specific server.

    Not much in terms of problems with it now. have used a 3rd party package called Screwdrivers to eliminate 99% of printing problems

  6. #6
    DMcCoy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Isle of Wight
    Posts
    3,486
    Thank Post
    10
    Thanked 502 Times in 442 Posts
    Rep Power
    114

    Re: Running SIMS on centrally hosted servers

    Vmware? I assume that needs a lot of memory for all those Database servers! How have you arranged the SQL licensing?

  7. #7

    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    oxfordshire county council
    Posts
    20
    Thank Post
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Rep Power
    0

    Re: Running SIMS on centrally hosted servers

    yes Vmware and it has worked a treat but yes they are beefy boxes. All the data is held on our SAN and all the blade servers boot direct from the SAN so we can rebuild/.clone one in a few minutes. I will ask about the licensing as someone else dealt with that side of things .....

  8. #8
    DMcCoy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Isle of Wight
    Posts
    3,486
    Thank Post
    10
    Thanked 502 Times in 442 Posts
    Rep Power
    114

    Re: Running SIMS on centrally hosted servers

    ESX, blades and an EMC SAN here

    Its a bit expensive though! I decided against SAN booting as I wanted to keep the swap partitions on the servers local drives, and once you build a set of instructions, ESX can be installed in an hour or so anyway. Do you backup with an agent in the VM or the disk images?

  9. #9

    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    oxfordshire county council
    Posts
    20
    Thank Post
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Rep Power
    0

    Re: Running SIMS on centrally hosted servers

    It isn't cheap but it is very reliable. We have been running a year now and it is even popular with some of the secondary schools.

    Will check the backups as other people look after all that here within the infrastructure team

  10. #10

    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    oxfordshire county council
    Posts
    20
    Thank Post
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Rep Power
    0

    Re: Running SIMS on centrally hosted servers

    We are currently talking to Capita and others regarding a county wide implementation of Learning Gateway (or alternative product). Currently no one seems to have a product that will work with multiple databases in a single location (AD problems with current models of s/w)

  11. #11
    DMcCoy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Isle of Wight
    Posts
    3,486
    Thank Post
    10
    Thanked 502 Times in 442 Posts
    Rep Power
    114

    Re: Running SIMS on centrally hosted servers

    You have a team!

    I'm SAN/Network/ESX/Backup/SIMS etc all in one.

    It's been great fun though, and Vmotion is always fun to show to people.

  12. #12

    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    oxfordshire county council
    Posts
    20
    Thank Post
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Rep Power
    0

    Re: Running SIMS on centrally hosted servers

    I am part of the ICT dept at Oxfordshire and not Education/CYPF. I manage the SIMS support team and we make use of the expertise around us as much as poss !!!! I am already braindead

  13. #13
    DMcCoy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Isle of Wight
    Posts
    3,486
    Thank Post
    10
    Thanked 502 Times in 442 Posts
    Rep Power
    114

    Re: Running SIMS on centrally hosted servers

    I'm testing ESX3 (its just about to install) at this very moment, preparing to convert from 2.5 during half term. I'm very happy with it, just 3 physical servers left to move over, one of which is sims.

  14. #14

    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    oxfordshire county council
    Posts
    20
    Thank Post
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Rep Power
    0

    Re: Running SIMS on centrally hosted servers

    In total we run 33 servers - inc virtual on our SIMS/FMS farm

  15. #15
    DMcCoy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Isle of Wight
    Posts
    3,486
    Thank Post
    10
    Thanked 502 Times in 442 Posts
    Rep Power
    114

    Re: Running SIMS on centrally hosted servers

    We are just a school (1000 pupils). I like enterprise equipment though. We needed more servers, and had several to replace. The physical servers sat around not doing much, but I wanted much more limited roles for each server so we tried ESX, I'd been using workstation at home for a while.

    We have a bladecenter with 6 blades, an EMC CX300 SAN, with an lto2 library for backup. Currently running 15 Virtual servers, this might seem a lot, but I can take most things offline and only affect a small part of the network.

    Its taken a long time to get going as I'm self taught, and my workload increased in all the wrong places - its more the time needed to finish the virtualisation project than the skills.



SHARE:
+ Post New Thread
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Replies: 35
    Last Post: 10th February 2014, 11:14 PM
  2. Running SIMs on a thin client....
    By UKNGroup in forum Thin Client and Virtual Machines
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 30th October 2007, 06:28 PM
  3. Running Sims standalone?
    By Outpost in forum MIS Systems
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 11th September 2007, 10:30 AM
  4. eportal running on HP servers
    By robk in forum MIS Systems
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 10th June 2007, 10:11 PM
  5. Moodle authentication hosted on CLEO servers
    By dezt in forum Virtual Learning Platforms
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 29th March 2007, 09:03 PM

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •