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    [SIMS] Bulk update future students?

    Is it possible?

    I want to bulk update my September year 7's but don't seem to be able to get SIMS' bulk update routines to see them.

    PS - I've already asked over at SupportNet, Sivadam doesn't think it can be done, but I wanted to see if anybody here had figured out a workaround?

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    If you mean Preadmission, these are in effect kept separate from the main part of SIMS. Tools and Routines available in SIMS are not available to Preadmissions (Admissions). Any amendments in bulk, if that is what you mean by Bulk Update, is not possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LosOjos View Post
    PS - I've already asked over at SupportNet, Sivadam doesn't think it can be done, but I wanted to see if anybody here had figured out a workaround?
    So you've got permission to post here then? LOL.

    All i can think of is to give them an accepted status, which sometimes puts them forward into the main part of SIMS for some areas. If they still don't appear, then ???

    EDIT: just tried it and it didn't work. I can see a new year group that is in next years pastoral structure but it's red. No new students showing.
    Last edited by vikpaw; 22nd June 2010 at 02:24 PM. Reason: update

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    Quote Originally Posted by creese View Post
    If you mean Preadmission, these are in effect kept separate from the main part of SIMS. Tools and Routines available in SIMS are not available to Preadmissions (Admissions). Any amendments in bulk, if that is what you mean by Bulk Update, is not possible.
    Quote Originally Posted by vikpaw View Post
    So you've got permission to post here then? LOL.

    All i can think of is to give them an accepted status, which sometimes puts them forward into the main part of SIMS for some areas. If they still don't appear, then ???
    Nope they are admitted students with an admission date in the future (September), SIMS won't show them in the bulk update routines. Another frustratingly simple feature SIMS lacks but I am hopeful that one day Capita will clear the backlog of change requests!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LosOjos View Post
    Nope they are admitted students with an admission date in the future (September), SIMS won't show them in the bulk update routines. Another frustratingly simple feature SIMS lacks but I am hopeful that one day Capita will clear the backlog of change requests!
    They are not actually admitted then, not until the admission date is reached. So still preadmission as far as SIMS is concerned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by creese View Post
    They are not actually admitted then, not until the admission date is reached. So still preadmission as far as SIMS is concerned.
    Thanks for that, but the point still remains that I can't update them until they are on roll, therefore meaning I have to do it all last minute.

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    I haven't thought through what i'm about to say, so feel free to shoot me down, if i screw up.
    Have you admitted them already? I thought that happened on the first day of school.
    What if you change the admission date on the pre-admission group to yesterday or today or tomorrow (whichever it will let you), that would bulk change their proposed admission date into the present, and then they may appear for bulk update.
    Then change it back if possible...
    If not, you'll just have to wait until they are admitted and add it to the Start of Year checklist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LosOjos View Post
    Thanks for that, but the point still remains that I can't update them until they are on roll, therefore meaning I have to do it all last minute.
    Just out of curiosity, what is it you want to update?

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    Quote Originally Posted by creese View Post
    Just out of curiosity, what is it you want to update?
    Ethnicity. They have all gone through as "Information not yet obtained", which means that when I (eventually) receive the ATF or CTF files, I'm going to have to manually change each one unless I blank the columns beforehand

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    Quote Originally Posted by LosOjos View Post
    Another frustratingly simple feature SIMS lacks
    Along with all the things which you can't change in bulk upload. Loads of our pupils have their lunch cycles in SIMS; we never use this information but its presence prevents me bulk updating students as leavers, meaning I must first MANUALLY delete the lunch plan and then bulk leave them. Unless anyone can think of a way around that....

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    Quote Originally Posted by enjay View Post
    Along with all the things which you can't change in bulk upload. Loads of our pupils have their lunch cycles in SIMS; we never use this information but its presence prevents me bulk updating students as leavers, meaning I must first MANUALLY delete the lunch plan and then bulk leave them. Unless anyone can think of a way around that....
    Buy Dinner Money 7. Sorry, there is a bulk default meal pattern routine in it.

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    Okay... any other ideas? :-)

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    I've opened a change request on SupportNet if anybody would care to vote

    CR: 1006-730857

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    the link worked!
    strongly agreed

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    I'd also like to see a change to the change request system, where do I log that lol? There must be hundreds of duplicated requests, you can't do a proper search on them, and I'll be damned if I'm trawling through the lot of them to check my request doesn't already exist!

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