MIS Systems Thread, Lesson Monitor advantages in Technical; Hi guys,
The school have expressed an interest in purchasing Lesson Monitor so we can start (at last) electronic registration. ...
13th April 2010, 07:35 AM #1
Lesson Monitor advantages
The school have expressed an interest in purchasing Lesson Monitor so we can start (at last) electronic registration. Aside from being able to register per lesson, what other benefits does Lesson Monitor have?
Without it, we can still do behaviour, etc. For the amount we've been quote, it appears that the only benefit would be to register per lesson instead of just AM/PM. Is it worth it or am I missing something completely??
13th April 2010, 08:28 AM #2
It gives more granular access to behavior and assessments as well as enabling you to access registers directly from the timeline(without it you have to go the long way round via the menus even if your afternoon reg is part of a lesson).
you can still use behavior without it but its much more cumbersome - you have to enter all of the details to log an incident including time,date place etc. I'm sure there are more advantages but we currently just use Attendance(am/pm only) as thats all we legally need to do.
13th April 2010, 09:43 AM #3
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I think besides the benefits mentioned, it is useful as an analysis tool to look for post registration or subject specific absences. It also eliminates missing marks as teachers cannot save the lesson register with missing marks in them. Also consider that subject heads and curriculum managers would welcome real time subject attendance analysis. IT is worth noting that capita quite offen have Lesson Monitor deals and that the cost for middles is vastly reduced.
13th April 2010, 02:20 PM #4
Another advantage to having Lesson Monitor over Attendance is that with LM you can have both AM/PM registration and a timetable on the teachers timeline, whereas with Att only you can either have one or the other.
There are many more reports in LM than there are in Att which does allow you to pinpoint whether or not students have been skiving, ill together with siblings and lots of other things. Imagine if the students in a senior school found out that they just had to turn up to AM/PM registration to receive 100% attendance! I think a lot would suddenly "disappear" from the other lessons throughout the day.
There are also other functions (which may not apply to you, as it's a middle school but Earliest Marks is a useful function for 6th forms) but copy lesson marks to session is always handy as then you don't even need a morning/afternoon registration period as it uses the mark from the lesson which you've set up to count as the AM/PM reg.
13th April 2010, 08:09 PM #5
Within the registers you can add minutes late and comments.
If you have the cover module too, the lesson register will be shown on the time-line of the covering teacher too.
From the cover side it's nice for staff not to hunt down the register.
1st July 2010, 03:48 PM #6
If you have a SIMS Learning Gateway, Lesson Monitor is also viewable by the Parents of your students.
1st July 2010, 04:02 PM #7
For us it is a way of leveraging the power of the data in SIMS into the classroom, as we already have electronic registration. As SIMS will be open at least once a lesson and most probably all day, it is easy for staff to dip into further information about the students in the class in front of them. They can then use this information to improve the differentiation of the lessons for the students. It will streamline the input of negative behaviour and achievements to better allow the pastoral structure of the school to intervene at an early stage. Hopefully it will allow staff to pick up low level disruption and see patterns of serious behaviour issues.
It may also encourage the use of technology across the curriculum through "well my laptop is there so I may as well teach with it" but I am not too hopeful on that front.
We have pilotted it with one department since May and are having a full day trial with all staff next week, the full launch in september. No unsolvable problems yet...............
2nd July 2010, 11:39 AM #8
I'm ccurrently pushing for it here, even though we are in independent school and the primary reason for the software, child truancy, isn't as valid. Basically I am using a numebr of points already mentioned here:
Recording minute late
Better access to behaviour/achievement
Forcing people to have SIMS open and thus use it more.
Part of the reason for having it is documented data rather than anacdotal, "Student x is always late", "How late?", "err...". It also means that all the data is centralised. This means that when a parent phones up to complain we can have a record that their child had been late x number of times and how late. The data is at their fingertips rather than the member of staff on the phone having to fob them off for a time and then ring them back when they have the information. It is also so you can spot patterns. For example if two pupils are in the same lesson one period then they go to differnet lessons but are 5 minuts late if both teacher record that in isolation then they may not realise that the two nip off for a cheaky snog after lesson (for example ).
Another plus it the ability to put information in in the future. For example if student x is in lessons period 1 and 2 then goes home sick an appropiate member of staff could add in to that students lessons that they were off sick. When a class teacher looks at their class in SIMS they see that student x is not here and send time asking where they are, chasing the issue up after lessons. It also removes whatever process you currently have for chasing missing pupils. We have a very silly process where if a student misses a lesson the staff member has to write up on a list in the staff room which student's are missing. that is then checked by the housemasters who then have to scribble notes on it as to why they are off (if they know) or chase it up. If the information is recorded as part of the class registration then staff don't worry about it and Housemasters get a nice graph on the computers in their offices.
2nd July 2010, 02:54 PM #9
Measuring condoned absences is a major reason for Indy schools to record lesson data.
3rd July 2010, 01:12 PM #10
Other things it's useful for are that teachers can add notes to a student, e.g didn't bring in homework. or perhaps homework due. they can look at a history of the lesson across a few weeks and see if the student needs to catch up some time.
The LM pages have quick tabbed links to marksheets and profiles, very useful for recording grades / report comments. They can even be used as a scoresheet within lessons, and overwritten later, depending on how the assessment area is set up in your school.
If you also opt for curriculum and lesson planner, then it gets really powerful and allows the delivery of lessons to be centred around SIMS and the register. so the teachers are then linking to resources, and reviewing the lesson they just had. essentially really embedding the use of SIMS down to the teachers' level and making it a really useful tool for them, rather than something they just use ad hoc.
5th July 2010, 01:10 PM #11
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It enhances your ability to engage with parents on bigger picture attendance issues than just AM/PM
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