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MIS Systems Thread, Sims Only updates when logged in as Admin in Technical; We upgraded Sims (v7.126) a few weeks ago, and all of our users are unable to update to the latest ...
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    Sims Only updates when logged in as Admin



    We upgraded Sims (v7.126) a few weeks ago, and all of our users are unable to update to the latest version unless logged in as an Administrator. We don't want to give all users Admin rights for obvious reasons, has anyone else seen this issue?

    Any help appreciated.

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    When I do SIMS upgrade i go round every workstation and log on and let it update anyway or I get teachers moan at the time it has wasted.

    Maybe you will have to go round every workstation!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dsquared2 View Post
    When I do SIMS upgrade i go round every workstation and log on and let it update anyway or I get teachers moan at the time it has wasted.

    Maybe you will have to go round every workstation!!!
    SIMSPERM to set permissions? (Yes, I still laugh at that)

    Sims permissions bat file

    A batch file called SIMSPerm.bat is available to
    provide SIMS .net users with the required access in order to automatically run
    the upgrades when they log into SIMS .net.
    How long do your updates take to apply dsquared2? Ours take a few minutes. Longer than it would for me to go round, log in, update, and log out.
    Last edited by Edu-IT; 9th February 2010 at 02:44 PM.

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    I tried to run the bat file using GPO, but still the same problem when logging on as a teacher. It wont update Sims.

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    We've been getting similar problems off and on since 7.126 was released - some users ok - some users need to be logged in as Administrator

    All PCs from same WDS Image which had SIMSPERM ran on it and the C:\Program Files\SIMS folder has the all staff security group granted FC...

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    it worked ok on other upgrades, but not this one.

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    Hmm... This will be worth knowing. Might give it a go over half term so I can trial a few machines.
    To be honest I gave up on SIMSperm. Opened the BAT file up and then used GP to set the permmissions bassed on the contents of the BAT file. That way I don't have to worry about forgetting to run it when I install new machines.

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    Never used simsperm, most schools i've been in allow users to be local Power Users or Admins, which combats most issues. They need rights over the local temp folder.

    Despite that, due to network speed and to prevent staff moans we tend to go around and manually update as many as we can.

    Something must have changed...

    Surely you can now use SOLUS 3 to push the upgrade out..?

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    AFAIK vikpaw is right and Solus 3 will do automatic updates of computers. We still use scripted updates here and will run Solus 3 when its on General Release in Autumn.

    There are threads on here on how to script the upgrade. The script i use is one i've created specifically for here so require configuring if its to go on another network.

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    there is a thread on here about how to give appropriate permissions using group policy.

    no scripts required.

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    I no longer let SIMS update itself in any way after a series of botched upgrades.
    Now I run SOLUS to get the updated packages on the server and push out the new packages to workstations to install over the top of the old ones.
    Works every time without issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandeep2504 View Post
    there is a thread on here about how to give appropriate permissions using group policy.

    no scripts required.
    Yeah it's very easy. Just copy the settings set by simsperm.bat in the registry and folder permissions. Having said that, we're on 7.124 and the OP is an issue with 7.126.

    We update the server, then a handful of office machines, but leave the teacher machines to the teacher. We tend to pop a message on the smartboard in the staff room informing staff of the update. It generally only takes 3-5minutes, and nobody complains much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandeep2504 View Post
    there is a thread on here about how to give appropriate permissions using group policy.

    no scripts required.
    Automated client updates avoides having users to do the install/update. Saves the teacher time and hastle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by apeo View Post
    Automated client updates avoides having users to do the install/update. Saves the teacher time and hastle.
    Exactly why I push out new packages, no user involvement whatsoever, and that suits everyone

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    Use SOLUS3, set permissions via group policy. SOLUS3 will do most of them, but if the staff to quick then the user will have enough permissions to do it "manually". Just rememeber, you need to be a power user\local admin if they use exams etc.

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