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MIS Systems Thread, Sims Only updates when logged in as Admin in Technical; Originally Posted by sparkeh Exactly why I push out new packages, no user involvement whatsoever, and that suits everyone Yeah ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by sparkeh View Post
    Exactly why I push out new packages, no user involvement whatsoever, and that suits everyone
    Yeah , its also the reason why i wrote a vbscript to check what version of SIMSApps is on the client and compare that with the setup. If setup is higher version, then install away .

    The script also updates an access database to show which computers may have missed the install so i can check them out/reboot them.

    It seems to work better then bat scripts i use to have.

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    are you willing to share?

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    Sure but as i say its taylored for here so it needs to be altered to get it working in another network i.e. its wont be a simple case of sticking it in gpo as a startup and it works. Will require some installation.

    I'll have a look at it today and see if i can tidy it abit.
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    I go into lots of schools and ask how often the distribution of SIMS to workstations goes wrong. I was in a huge Norwich school yesterday and asked. The answer I normally get back is "we don't have any problems and if we do its because we forgot to prep the new machine".

    The disribution system we supply is used by 1000s of schools; if something is going wrong in your school please log a call because it shouldn't be going wrong.

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    Its been like this for years, never found a solution other than adding the admin staff to the power users group.

    I run simsperm on every computer when we install sims and it doesnt seem to make a difference at all.

    Hopefully Solus 3 will fix all these issues though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilNeal View Post
    I go into lots of schools and ask how often the distribution of SIMS to workstations goes wrong. I was in a huge Norwich school yesterday and asked. The answer I normally get back is "we don't have any problems and if we do its because we forgot to prep the new machine".

    The disribution system we supply is used by 1000s of schools; if something is going wrong in your school please log a call because it shouldn't be going wrong.
    I really don't understand why people have trouble either.

    My GPO consists of:

    Computer Settings - Windows Settings - Security Settings - File System
    Add %Program Files%\SIMS - allow your staff group Full Control
    Add %SYSTEMROOT%\sims.ini - allow your staff group Full Control

    Computer Settings - Windows Settings - Security Settings - Registry
    Add Machine\Software\Classes - allow your staff group Full Control
    Add Machine\Software\Classes\CLSID - allow your staff group Full Control
    Add Machine\Software\Classes\Interface - allow your staff group Full Control
    Add Machine\Software\Classes\TypeLib - allow your staff group Full Control

    Make sure everything is set to propagate sub folders / keys.

    Apply to the correct computer OU. Bob's your uncle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilNeal View Post
    I go into lots of schools and ask how often the distribution of SIMS to workstations goes wrong. I was in a huge Norwich school yesterday and asked. The answer I normally get back is "we don't have any problems and if we do its because we forgot to prep the new machine".

    The disribution system we supply is used by 1000s of schools; if something is going wrong in your school please log a call because it shouldn't be going wrong.
    Basically for us, every update resulted in a few machines unable to launch SIMS after the workstation ran the upgrade. This was due to the updated files not being present on the machine. This affected different machines each time without there appearing to be any common link. A call was logged with LA support but no cause was found.

    Therefore I now just update the packages on the server with the new .exes and allocate out again. I find this better for the users as well as they don't have to sit through an upgrade.

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    Sims also updates by running exe files from the temp folder. Software restriction policy can interfere with this depending on how you have it set up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DMcCoy View Post
    Sims also updates by running exe files from the temp folder. Software restriction policy can interfere with this depending on how you have it set up.
    Like RM

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    @rowed: do you still want the script?

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    Quote Originally Posted by matt40k View Post
    Like RM
    Depends what level of security you are running.
    Actually RM Advanced security follows MS guidelines for software installation, it is vendors not actually following these rules that causes the issues

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    I gave up on SIMSPERM on new machines. I just give modify access to staff on the Program Files\SIMS folder, and it updates fine. Their accounts are well locked down otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparkeh View Post
    Depends what level of security you are running.
    Actually RM Advanced security follows MS guidelines for software installation, it is vendors not actually following these rules that causes the issues

    Hey, hey, SIMS is Windows 7 approved... well Spring is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matt40k View Post
    Like RM
    I've not come across anything yet that you can't get around with the correct rules.

    You have to do the same on a Vanilla network... software restriction policies etc etc.

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    I was referring to the people who go RM and forget to change the software restriction policy which is setup by default... unlike vanilla.

    Not having a go at RM.



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