@Sivadam: you regularly come on here and advertise SupportNet and constantly attack anybody who says anything negative about Capita: if you can give it, learn to take it!
marshharrier (13th November 2010)
I'm not one generally to stick up for others on a forum, it is only words and you lot are more than capable of fending for yourselves!
However, I would say that there is a difference between having a point of view and defending that, and blindly attacking 'non-believers' without consideration for the argument, of which working with Sivedam for a number of years (albeit electronically) I would put into the former category. I would put most recent posters in this thread into that category...
Back on topic: how many schools are using ScholarPack? I had a look at the demo on the website and it looks like a good start, but wondered how many schools are using it in it's current form successfully? How does customisation of that work; straight editing of the code or via an API?
Congratulations to scholarpack. I hope that having a sponsor will help us keep the forum impartial because there should be no other advertising, we all know it's been creeping in over the past year in subtle ways.
Having a sponsor doesn't mean that the site endorses a particular product, it just means that they have paid for the privilege to mention their products. We're all discerning enough to weigh up the pros and cons as can be seen in this thread amongst many. I'm sure any inadequacies will be slated just like with any other product as it's our way . The key point is that other companies shouldn't be drawing attention to their offerings, taking advantage of EduGeek.net 's prominence and standing, without stumping up the cash for the amazing marketing opportunity that it is.
Now, like graham said lets focus, it was getting really interesting until that interruption.
@losojos, lets start a new thread on scholarpack.
GREED (9th November 2010)
The online demo shows the Open Source version which is freely downloadable. Soon this will be changed so the demo shows the full enterprise version with more modules. So far, in 12 weeks, we have had over 750 downloads throughout the world of the source code. Due to the open source nature of this software we are not aware of how these downloads are being used! (apart from the positive feedback often from 3rd world countries strangely). However, presently we are working with 12 schools who are just getting going with implementing ScholarPack Enterprise (free for UK schools version) which we host and provide support for. The advertising on Edugeek is our first marketing push and we hope to sign up many more schools early next year. Obviously. we are a young company in the MIS market and we are fully aware that it may take some time to make a dent in the market. However, we have the funding, the resources and the will to do this.
I have constantly stated that I am posting here for exactly that reason! I naively think that there are now fewer posts that attack the software for no apparant or for misconceived reasons than there were previously!
Actually I had quite a good reputatio at first and it only moved into the red when posts that I suspected of being mailicious appeared! The support that I got outside the forums at that time was astounding! Having lost all the red aquares that obtained at the time I have since moved back into the green!
I wonder how long it will last!
Ha! Ha! - too late - I am Red again! I have got my reputation back!
End of thread again for me - unless of course somebody comes back at me!
Last edited by Sivadam; 9th November 2010 at 04:40 PM.
So ignoring any clunkiness (or cost) involved in getting the data you want out of that system, what's the problem with polling? Is, at a time of your choosing, exchanging a few standard request/response messages with that theoretical "nice" system asking for those deltas since the last time, significantly worse than being sent the deltas one by one as they happen?I would have zero chance turning around to my manager and saying 'we want a ZIS and need to sort out a SIF agent or 2, it'll cost us £1000+'. It just won't happen, I'd be expected instead to come up with a solution like I have now which polls the system periodically for data I want - for free.
Yet again for horizontal within a school, I can see lots of cases for some kind of SIF-like-client -> SIF-like-service-exposing-the-MIS but where is that burning requirement for SIF Agents everywhere and a traffic-cop to route and keep on top of the (not-evident to me) complexity?
I keep asking this. Someone must be able to cite some real, practical examples, surely?
Here is an article about the benefits of SIF SIF Strikes back « Quarkside
@scholarpack does your free mis include an api? is this api free for anyone to access? Is it hosted on a private cloud or is it on a shared cloud?
No not currently but we are working on a web services API for release early next year that small companies could use. It's not a priority at the moment. Hosted on a private cloud.
But that's all vertical isn't it? Recall I said "Yet again for horizontal within a school.."Link2ICT in Birmingham use SIF to provision users on to their IdP platform and their hosted Moodle. <snip>There are some schools using the IdP to provision accounts on there local active directory domain.
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